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Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Mar 31, 2020 7:44 PM CST
I literally haven't been out of my house in weeks, and I've mostly been fine with it until running into a few unexpected household shortages. All of the grocery deliveries are running behind by 3 days here and I had to get some stuff that couldn't wait 3 days. I wasn't necessarily on a plant hunt (except that I'm always on a plant hunt, really...), but low and behold I found this R. Tetrasperma for $25 with the pot included.
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(The one in the terra-cotta is my existing RT and the one in the white pot is what I found today.) I wasn't even going to check the tag at first because the last time I saw a RT at meijer, it was $70. I figured this would be just as overpriced, but $25 is pretty good, I think. I was going to ask an employee to mark it down because it did have a few leaves that were in bad condition (I already cut them off), but I practiced social distancing and got the heck out of the store with what I needed...and a plant.
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Ohio
Mariedorer
Mar 31, 2020 7:58 PM CST
Great find!
I have accumulated 4 small ones via trades and such and I need to pot them together. Youd think I'd have plenty of time right now but I feel with all the kids home, and hubby (my biggest kid) I have way less time! Blinking
Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Mar 31, 2020 8:06 PM CST
I have the same issue! Why are husbands our biggest kids?!
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
Region: Florida Tropicals Aroids
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Gina1960
Apr 1, 2020 4:58 PM CST
Good for you!!!!!!
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Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Apr 1, 2020 8:12 PM CST
Thanks. I'm going to give it a while to acclimate and then see what's in this pot. It doesn't have a drainage hole and I'm not even sure what the soil situation is in there.
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
Region: Florida Tropicals Aroids
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Gina1960
Apr 2, 2020 5:57 AM CST
I might venture a guess as to why this might have been cheaper....they have started to tissue culture R. tetrasperma again. It has been showing up a lot in box stores and nurseries. Natural Selections Exotics has it advertised for sale for a much cheaper price than the older non-TC (at least, not TC'd for many generations) plants, more than half the price, and it is specifically labeled as 'TC Clone'.

Some people who have bought the new clones at box stores are reporting aberrations in leaf form. leaves emerging wonky and the like
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Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Apr 2, 2020 2:37 PM CST
I know I've asked this before but I'm really tired and my brain cells are struggling. Is tissue culture frowned upon?

There's definitely something up. This is the third RT I've seen in a grocery in a month and a half or so.
Name: Kim
Black Hills, SD (Zone 5a)
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KFredenburg
Apr 2, 2020 2:41 PM CST
Mariedorer said:Great find!
I have accumulated 4 small ones via trades and such and I need to pot them together. Youd think I'd have plenty of time right now but I feel with all the kids home, and hubby (my biggest kid) I have way less time! Blinking


Haha so true @Mariedorer! (About the kids I mean)
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Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
Region: Florida Tropicals Aroids
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Gina1960
Apr 2, 2020 4:49 PM CST
No not really....tissue culture has positives and negatives. The positives are that it makes plants more available if they are mass produced and therefore cheaper. And supposedly, there can be no virus transmission in TC plants (I am not sure how they can say this).

The cons are that sometimes, contamination can occur, and you can get a wonky batch. Also, over time, just simply because of the variability in morphology of the same plant (i.e. anthurium warocqueanum has 4 main forms...light green, dark green, narrow leaf, and wide leaf. They are just a variable leaf form) TC samples can get mixed together, and the result does not always look exactly like the original species. Steve Lucas of Exotic Rainforest always maintained that seed grown anthuriums were prettier than TC ones.

I have had this discussion with some botanists before...I have an Anthurium luxurians that was being sold 14-15 years ago that was a seed propagated plant, and it has subtle differences in morphology than the tissue culture ones that are bring produced in Asia right now. The reason being, my plant was propagated from seed, not form a mixed up sample of tissue from more than one plant.
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Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Apr 2, 2020 5:40 PM CST
Interesting. Well time will tell if this one has odd shaped leaves from a weird batch. It's too small to tell now. From what you're saying, my older RT might have been a result of a tissue culture as well because it throws out some really weird leaves occasionally. They look like they're bent but they aren't. They just curve oddly.
So can you propagate a tissue culture just like a seed grown plant? Stem cuttings?
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
Region: Florida Tropicals Aroids
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Gina1960
Apr 2, 2020 7:06 PM CST
Oh yes. They are just cloned plants. When you hear someone refer to a plant as a clone they are referring to a tissue cultures plant. Many many orchids are clones, you will see them labeled as mericlones which means they used the meristem tissue to culture and grow the new cells for the new plants
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Mariedorer
Apr 2, 2020 7:09 PM CST
Adrienne, I propagated one of mine (not sure if it TC) but it has shot off 3 or 4 branches from the original stem. It's an interesting one for sure!

Gina, I love all of this great info. Feels like my brain is taking in some much needed useful information in these trying times.
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
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Gina1960
Apr 2, 2020 7:20 PM CST
I like our forum because people share their information and its like a conversation. I hate forums where the participants just post the info and walk away, people don;t get to know each other or anything. The orchid forum is another example of a great forum, everyone is really into their plants, and they have been together for a long time and really feel they are friends.
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Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Apr 3, 2020 8:21 AM CST
there Are some shoots starting off the drama of this plant too! I noticed them when I got it and I chose this plant over the other one because it had more shoots. I wasn't sure if they were leaves or if a new vibe was forming. My other plant is kind of a mess. I think the person who propagated it completely buried the pieces of vine. It basically just has leaves coming up out of the soil. I'm not sure what's going to happen with it when it decides it would rather be vining than clumping.

I like our forum too.

philodendres
Apr 23, 2020 11:54 AM CST
You should consider making a totem or trellis for it! They look stunning once they've taken off vertically. :)
Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Apr 23, 2020 6:14 PM CST
Yes! I want to do this. Right now they're both sorely lacking any semblance of a vine. Well, they have them, they're just stubby. It's like the person propagating it took clumps with tiny stem bits and mostly leaves and arranged them in a pot. Both seem super happy in an east window though and I'm really hoping they take off.
Not sure if you can tell, but this guy's been growing. I intended to repot (it had a bunch of fake grassy stuff and decoration on top and I felt it didn't bode well for what may be going on deeper inside the pot) but I haven't gotten in there and checked things out because it seems perfectly happy.
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Name: Megan
RI (Zone 6b)
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Megos1286
May 4, 2020 7:33 PM CST
What a great score! It's gorgeous! I just trimmed mine - it had gotten too leggy over winter and made lots of cuttings. My stomach sank with the first "snip" of the scissors Blinking
Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
May 5, 2020 1:02 PM CST
I know that feeling well. Sad sometimes it really is for the best.

I did some maintenance on mine yesterday. The pot doesn't have drainage and I don't have a well draining pot in the correct size just sitting around my house so I had to replace the fake green mossy stuff with aroid mix and put it back into its original pot. I hope that'll be better for it. I would've liked to put it into a pot with drainage but I'm not getting out much to plant/pot shop, like most people.
Name: Megan
RI (Zone 6b)
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Megos1286
May 8, 2020 7:26 PM CST
Good luck with the potting. I'm with you, our stay at home order expires today - I've been craving a walk through the dead plant department of Lowe's or Home Depot. All of our box stores have had the garden centers closed off as they are "non-essential".

Pretty essential to us plant folk who are home looking at all of our plant babies who need pots, moss poles, hangers, etc! Hahaha! Blinking
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
Region: Florida Tropicals Aroids
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Gina1960
May 8, 2020 7:33 PM CST
Really! All ours have stayed open!
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