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Name: Carol
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ctcarol
Apr 17, 2020 5:45 PM CST
I read somewhere "the finer the roots, the finer the mix", but that is a "rule of thumb" that has limitations as Ursula pointed out.
Name: Carol
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ctcarol
Apr 17, 2020 5:57 PM CST
Oh yeah! Environment plays a big role too! It's 4:53 here and the sun just appeared for the first time today. Yesterday it was 80, The day before Almost 90. Sighing!
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BigBill
Apr 17, 2020 6:10 PM CST
Well I preach that the finer the root, the finer the mix all of the time. Once you get that, you just need to change the watering frequency and/or the light. But if you neglect the finer mix, I feel the other changes are more difficult to master.
The key to orchid growing is to match the orchid to your conditions.
Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Apr 17, 2020 8:21 PM CST
I'm curious about the medium that this is in.
It's a pot full of sphagnum...
I have a Dancing ladies that is in orchid bark. And I admit it looks to be struggling.
Opinions?
Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Apr 17, 2020 8:28 PM CST
Thanks Bill, Ursula, and Carol!! That sure does make sense!
Thinking the next thing I'm going to do is repot my "dancing ladies" into a finer/moss combo mix...
I must admit, I probably don't water as much/ often as I should. *Blush*
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Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Apr 17, 2020 10:49 PM CST
I agree on the moss, too. Risky business. I'd never leave an orchid potted in nothing but moss, especially if you're growing them outside, in Florida. It just stays too wet in the humid weather ie. all summer and most of spring and fall. So it breaks down way too fast and causes problems as Bill said above, with the acidity etc.

I do use some high quality long-staple moss in a bark mix for fine-rooted orchids though. My Miltassias are in slat baskets that start out with moss in the bottom of the baskets, and I give them some fresh moss on top and around the roots as the mix breaks down. I keep those baskets low down on the cage wall just so I can easily keep an eye on the medium, to see if the roots are happy.

I also use moss in a thin layer when I first mount orchids onto cork rafts, just to hold more moisture on the surface of the cork and give the roots some encouragement to attach. All my rafts are slanted a bit so the water runs off them easily, and the moss really disappears pretty fast on them. It just gets washed away, I guess.

My mist system in the cage waters with well water which is fairly high pH. So that mitigates the acidity problems with the aging moss somewhat, as well.
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Name: Alice
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ardesia
Apr 18, 2020 5:21 AM CST
Any thoughts on the type of moss? I read in the St. Augustine OS newsletter that one of their members prefers moss from New Zealand and says it last several years in our climate as opposed to that from S. America which only lasts about 6 months. I also wonder about how the growers pack moss in a pot so tight it seems there could be little oxygen in there.
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BigBill
Apr 18, 2020 5:55 AM CST
New Zealand moss is often preferred over South American moss for a few reasons.
NZ moss is consistently long fibered and very clean. Some fibers have approached 9-12" in length. SA moss has shorter fibers. The feeling is that the shorter fibers can lead to compaction quicker in the pot causing water flow issues quicker.
I have found twigs, thorns, pebbles etc. inside bags of SA moss.

When you look at packing moss in too tightly, that can be easily done with either type.
There is no concrete evidence that I am aware of that proves either one has increased longevity compared to the other.
When you lay them side by side, the cleanliness and long fibers often sway ones decision.
It is a very tricky media to use properly. It takes experience to use it correctly. Which is precisely why I recommend that beginners do not use it.
The key to orchid growing is to match the orchid to your conditions.
Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Apr 18, 2020 9:53 AM CST

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Just looking at my Dendrobium distichum, it has been blooming for a while! Rolling on the floor laughing
The terminal blooms are in the mm range. I look at this plant as one of the smaller cousins of Dendrobium anceps, although the blooms on the latter pop out along/mostly underneath the distichous growth.
This one likes warmer temperatures and gets flooded daily with rain water.
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Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Apr 18, 2020 12:05 PM CST
Yes, I always get the long fiber NZ moss. It still doesn't last very long in my daily watering section, and the hot weather, though.

Beautiful distichum, Ursula. I love the stripes!
Elaine

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Name: Prabhi Setty
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prabhisetty
Apr 18, 2020 1:24 PM CST
Hi Guys
Good afternoon and hope everyone is o.k. keep the social distance all the time.
My Bulbophyllum Messy sassy is in bloom.Bought the plant less than 4 weeks ago.



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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Apr 20, 2020 8:08 AM CST

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Prabhi,
the RHS lists a Bulbophyllum Meen Sassy Girl? Smiling Neat!

Some repeats here - the second 'Debbie' pot is now also open
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Encyclia bractescens blooms along
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Leptotes bicolor opens some more
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and Domingoa haematochila starts up
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BigBill
Apr 20, 2020 8:47 AM CST
If you look at the second image of Prahbi's Bulbophyllum, you can read Meen Sassy right on the plant label.
In the first image the position of the label and spike makes it impossible to read. It is blocked.
The key to orchid growing is to match the orchid to your conditions.
Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Apr 20, 2020 9:10 AM CST

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That has to be it! Smiling
Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Apr 20, 2020 11:53 AM CST
It must be nice to have such great eyesight. I can't read that label on either photos. Sighing!
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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Apr 20, 2020 12:42 PM CST

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Ken, just before this whole thing happened, we both squeaked in with a brand new prescriptions/new glasses. Got lucky there! Strangely enough my distance was increasingly off and I now could easily see close up - which is a reverse from previous. Age does that, but so far could be corrected. Thumbs up
Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Apr 20, 2020 2:32 PM CST

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And it is Irene Finney time!!
I bought this as Lc ( now C) Irene Finney 'Ingrid' last Winter from Stony Hill! The plant grew a large root system since then.
The first of three spikes opening now
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BigBill
Apr 20, 2020 2:56 PM CST
Yup! That's Irene Finney!
What a gorgeous lip. Really nice Ursula, really nice. Thumbs up
The key to orchid growing is to match the orchid to your conditions.
Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Apr 20, 2020 3:57 PM CST

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Irene Finney was always a favorite of mine! Smiling
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BBQNBLUES
Apr 20, 2020 4:35 PM CST
Ursula said:Irene Finney was always a favorite of mine! Smiling


I used to have an Irene Finney 'York' purchased from Stewart Orchids way back in the late 70's.

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