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Houston, TX zone 9a       Willinator Apr 10, 2020 4:51 PM CST |
| Hello everyone I thought this should be a separate thread  I am thinking that I should again ask the landlord if I could build a large rose bed next to the driveway where I get full sun and planting the following Tea Roses: Duchess de Brabant (Comtesse de Labarthe) Mrs. B. R. Cant And maybe try the following Teas Marie Van Houtte Rubens or Safrano Mme Joseph Schwartz And maybe one or two shrub roses Belinda's Blush Belinda's Dream Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds that you plant. Robert Louis Stevenson |
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)  jerijen Apr 11, 2020 11:52 AM CST |
| Just know that both Mrs. B.R. Cant and Marie van Houtte will be pretty big plants. So, I suspect will Rubens ... while Safrano is smaller, everywhere I've seen it. Lovely roses, however. This is Marie van Houtte ... and she has the loveliest foliage . . .  This is Mrs. B.R. Cant:  Also lovely foliage. |
Houston, TX zone 9a Willinator Apr 11, 2020 9:57 PM CST |
| Here are my thoughts I am really liking the cedar "raised beds" because of the 15" height If I get 3 4'x6' raised beds in root cedar I could plant 2 bushes in each planter 6 in total and the "raised beds" would cost $ 717 plus the cost of soil and roses. If I get one 4'x12' "raised bed" in root cedar I could put 4 bushes in it and it would cost $ 399 plus the cost of soil and roses. Or a very good option may be two Gronomics Cedar 3-Tier "Raised Bed" 95"x48"x19"Height which would cost $ 739.98 at WayFair and $ 689.98 at Walmart I really like the height This would also allow me to plant 6 bushes with three in each bed. .. Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds that you plant. Robert Louis Stevenson |
Houston, TX zone 9a Willinator Apr 12, 2020 11:23 AM CST |
| Well If I consider one of the options which allow for planting 6 rose bushes, I will select: Duchess de Brabant (Comtesse de Labarthe) Mrs. B. R. Cant Marie Van Houtte Mme Joseph Schwartz Belinda's Dream or La Marne Monsieur Tillier Also has anyone tried the Cedar raised beds?? Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds that you plant. Robert Louis Stevenson |
Name: Porkpal Richmond, TX            porkpal Apr 12, 2020 2:03 PM CST |
| I have all the roses you have chosen and think it is an excellent selection. Porkpal |
Houston, TX zone 9a Willinator Apr 12, 2020 4:36 PM CST |
| I have always had a liking for Belinda's Dream and Duchess de Brabant and Mrs. B. R. Cant. The other roses would be new to me! I have never grown 'Marie Van Houtte', 'Mme. Joseph Schwartz', 'Monsieur Tillier' or 'La Marne' Other roses that I would consider include 'Rival de Paestum' (Tea) and 'Belinda's Blush' if I can find it. Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds that you plant. Robert Louis Stevenson |
Houston, TX zone 9a Willinator Apr 12, 2020 5:46 PM CST |
| Another alternative would be three steel "raised beds" with dimensions 40"x76"x17" Height which would extend to 19 feet. for $ 514.14 and I would still be able to place 6 rose bushes in those beds. Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds that you plant. Robert Louis Stevenson |
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)  vaporvac Apr 12, 2020 6:29 PM CST |
I think only ARE carries Belinda's Blush. I have and love both Belinda's Dream and La Marne, but they are very different roses. Maybe you just need them both!  |
Houston, TX zone 9a Willinator Apr 13, 2020 10:04 AM CST |
| Well if I am able to put in that large rose bed It will probably hold no more than 6 large bushes and all of my choices will get large. That is a goodly portion of my problem in a rent house I can only do so much. Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds that you plant. Robert Louis Stevenson |
Houston, TX zone 9a Willinator Apr 13, 2020 3:48 PM CST |
| Well, I am now back to looking because the steel "raised garden beds" that I really like are not available this season. So I will just have to try a different tack Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds that you plant. Robert Louis Stevenson |
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b) vaporvac Apr 13, 2020 5:31 PM CST |
| Willinator, why do you need raised beds? |
Houston, TX zone 9a Willinator Apr 14, 2020 5:27 AM CST |
| Well, the reason we need raised beds in Houston TX is that with the amount of rain etc. and the fact that roses do not like (wet feet) It is recommended in Houston, TX that the beds be raised. And remember we are in a rent house which means that if we install raised beds they can be more easily taken apart. But the more I consider the more I feel that the cost even at around $ 500 is a bit cost prohibitive so I have decided to go with the 3 rose bushes that I have currently in pots along with the other plants that I will have in containers. Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds that you plant. Robert Louis Stevenson |
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b) vaporvac Apr 14, 2020 12:44 PM CST |
| I certainly would not like to disagree with local wisdom or even question local recommendations, but here we get between 45' and 60' of rain with heavy clay soil and they do fine here planted straight in the ground so long as I do the percolator test first. I add homemade compost to my soil and mulch on top. I would find grassing over a hole if necessary easy compared to making raised beds. Of course, pots are the most portable, I'm just terrible at keeping them happy. Maybe your landlord wouldn't mind them staying if you decided to leave them. I know that was the case when I had tenants plant roses; I was thrilled they cared! Just a thought. : -)) |
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