Roses forum: Recommendations for purchasing David Austin roses 5' high or shorter

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Name: Dennis Brown
The Big Island, Hawaii
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kohala
Apr 11, 2020 8:55 PM CST
I would love to hear your recommendations on purchasing four more DA roses, five feet high or shorter. Currently, I have the following:
Munstead Wood
Roald Dahl
Ambridge Rose
Christopher Marlowe
Crocus Rose
Grace
Graham Thomas
I am thinking about purchasing the following:
Jubilee Celebration
Mary Rose
Carding Hill
Emily Bronte

You will note that they are on the short size (supposedly).
FYI my first experience with the David Austin nursery was interesting. On the plus side the roses came well packaged and were in wonderful shape. All have bloomed in the last two months. On the negative side, all the roses had dead canes. This was just irritating. But their customer Service was below par. When I purchased my first ones two or three weeks went by and I heard nothing from them. I was told I would get an email confirmation when they shipped. I didn't get one. I called them and was told they would be shipped the following Monday. Actually, they were shipped the previous Thursday. Since I don't have home delivery the roses could have languished in a hot Hawaiian post office before I found them. Fortunately, I got a call from the post office (it's very small) and was alerted. Also, I asked their customer service person if she could add two small packages of fungi to my order. She said it was too late; it would be an additional $40 shipping. Hum!!!

fisherwoman
Apr 12, 2020 12:16 PM CST
You have made some lovely choices.
After my experience with David Austin roses, for the most part I want to work with local nurseries that carry Austin roses. That way I can see what I'm getting without the suspense.
DA in Texas did send a nice replacement Shakespeare 2000 . One little cane has a blackened end I am watching to see if it travels down.
Lady of Shalott is in transit, I should see by Friday for the first time what David Austin's potted roses look like.
My analysis at the end of 7 years of Austin rose growing is to buy as much local as I can, and only order the new most disease resistant varieties direct from David Austin Texas .
Name: Dennis Brown
The Big Island, Hawaii
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kohala
Apr 12, 2020 1:43 PM CST
Thanks for your comments. Unfortunately, on the Big Island, Hawaii the only "rose nurseries" are Home Depot and Lowes and they don't carry Austin roses. I will take your advice and only purchase the new most disease resistant varieties.

Happy Easter
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
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vaporvac
Apr 12, 2020 3:24 PM CST
Kohala, last year Walmart had some lovely Austins and I've purchased them unnamed before at Lowe's. The DA tag was buried in the soil. Don't give up hope of finding them locally. You never know. I don't recall which you have, but Olivia is reported to be an excellent rose as are a couple of the new reds. This site https://rightroses.com/ has excellent reviews on some of them as does Paul Barden's old site. http://tlcfocus.com/paulbarden...
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Apr 12, 2020 4:30 PM CST
Mary Rose is one of the Austins that will stay 5-ft. or lower.
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
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reh0622
Apr 14, 2020 11:36 AM CST
Princess Anne stays under 4' for me. I have it planted in a large tub pot. Bright pink with yellow peaking through at the base of the petals, Light fragrance.
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Name: Dennis Brown
The Big Island, Hawaii
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kohala
Apr 14, 2020 12:05 PM CST
Princess Anne is listed at David Austin, but it doesn't appear they're selling it. Weird
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
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reh0622
Apr 14, 2020 1:34 PM CST
Hmm. Mine was purchased a few years back from the UC Davis rose fields.
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Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
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Mustbnuts
Apr 14, 2020 2:13 PM CST
Mary Magdalene stays lower than 5 feet and is a very nice rose.
Name: Dennis Brown
The Big Island, Hawaii
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kohala
Apr 14, 2020 4:47 PM CST
Apparently, David Austin does not offer Mary Magdalene at the present time.
(Zone 9b)
GlennD
Apr 15, 2020 8:30 AM CST
Base on my experience in Florida 9b:

Darcey Bussell
Ambridge Rose
Tamora
Carding Mill
Molineux
The Alnwick rose


fisherwoman
Apr 17, 2020 9:39 PM CST
Lady of Shalott arrived today in a nice sturdy box. She is a stunning perfect little rose bush full of beautiful leaves still moist and secure in her David Austin pot . They sent a large photo tag like you see on potted roses at the nursery, along with a nice detailed planting booklet. If all goes well for me, they have me for a repeat customer next year. I was incredibly impressed !
Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
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Mustbnuts
Apr 18, 2020 2:24 AM CST
Dennis, DA is discontinuing Mary Magdalene (I think). You would need to order her from another nursery. She is worth getting as is Pretty Jessica. I had one bloom of Jessica in my house and she gave off the most beautiful scent that filled the entire room--one bloom! Jessica also stays under five feet. She is a fierce bloomer. Worth checking out (she is not offered by DA any longer). A really good DA rose.
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Apr 18, 2020 8:33 PM CST
Poet's Wife is supposed to be very disease resistant and stays under 4ft. I'm thinking of getting one to replace Bella Rosa under a window.
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin (Zone 8a)
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hampartsum
Apr 21, 2020 7:09 AM CST
Perhaps my comments should be taken with some reservations: your growing conditions are so different!.
The following have met your size indications here:
The Shepherdess
Grace
Lady Emma Hamilton
Cottage Rose
Francine Austin
Jubilee Celebration
Mary Rose
Darcey Bussel
St Cecilia
Swan
Noble Anthony

Francine Austin is very different from other DA's. It grows in octopus like fashion with short canes spread out, topped with huge clusters. It keeps blooming in flushes. I've planted it as a first row bush and am very pleased with it. It barely reaches 3', sometimes up to 4' when taking the full bloom cluster size.

Noble Anthony may eventually grow a bit taller here. Now its just about 4'. But perhaps as it grows older it will reach 5'. Its amazingly fragrant.

Jubilee Celebration is a non stop bloomer very well behaved rounded bush of abou 3'.

Both Grace and L.E.H. are rounded bushes up to 4'.These two really prefer dappled shade and bloom off and on all season along. There are a few still in bloom in spite of our well advanced fall.

The Shephedess is also a front line rose on the smallish end. However mine are a recent last year arrival so I don't really know about their final size.

Arturo
Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
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Mustbnuts
Apr 21, 2020 9:24 AM CST
The heat here killed my Lady Emma Hamilton within a month, so beware!
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
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reh0622
Apr 21, 2020 9:46 AM CST
I now have two more--The Poet's Wife, and Tranquility, a hybrid musk, which I plan to re-pot into large pots. I discovered a bit of canker which I trimmed off (and disinfected my pruners between each cut) so I hope that won't be a future problem by not getting it all.
Name: Dennis Brown
The Big Island, Hawaii
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kohala
Apr 21, 2020 2:16 PM CST
Thanks again for all your recommendations. Some of them were posted after I placed my DA order. Here are some of the suggestions and my comments:
Princess Anne-not available
Mary Magdalene-not available
Darcey Bussell-ordered and received
Ambridge Rose-already have
Tamora-already have
Carding Mill-ordered and received
Molineaux-for my next order
In addition to the above I ordered the following:
Golden Celebration
Windermere
Tahitian Sunset-Donna's choice



Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin (Zone 8a)
Roses Dahlias Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
hampartsum
Apr 21, 2020 2:24 PM CST
Here both Molyneux and Golden Celebration grow quite bushy upright and almost 6 ' high. In my local experience they seem to be above your limit size. Of course these are local considerations... Smiling
Arturo
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Apr 21, 2020 3:05 PM CST
Windermere will also grow to over 5ft. I trimmed one side of mine to keep it clear of a window but that was the wrong thing to do. The side I trimmed grew to 6ft while the part I left alone only grew to 4.5ft.
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