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NatsRose
Apr 28, 2020 5:09 PM CST
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I got this Lady of Shalott bare root rose shipped to me yesterday and just got her planted after soaking the roots in water overnight. The rose came with shoots sprouting and all facing one direction. It was a little tricky to get a picture of an angle to show, but they some are crossing the middle and appear that they would rub other parts of the plant. Should I go ahead and prune these ones?

I also pruned off a tiny cane that looked dead and like it may have had fungus on it. Should I go ahead and spray the whole plant with fungicide already? I bought a sulfur one as I'm trying to be as organic as possible.

Thanks for any tips!
Name: Lola
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LolaTasmania
Apr 28, 2020 6:00 PM CST
It looks to me like the new growth going all in that direction is because they sprouted when the plant may have been lying on its side and that way was 'up'. I would wait to see if any new growth changes direction now that the plant is properly in the ground.

NatsRose
Apr 28, 2020 6:07 PM CST
That's a good point! I think it did grow that way because of how it was laying on its side. I will wait and see. Thank you.
Name: Lee-Roy
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Arico
Apr 28, 2020 6:17 PM CST
Indeed. The length and pale color also indicate this grew in darkness.

But I'm afraid this will not correct itself. Sure, the shoots will now turn upwards to grow, but they won't be turned in the proper outward direction (they are inward facing buds anyway). My advice is to rub these off and prune back to an outward facing bud.

NatsRose
Apr 28, 2020 6:35 PM CST
Ah, that's a good point. Now that I'm looking a little closer, I think the ones from inward facing buds would make sense to remove since they will probably grow toward the middle even if they straighten out. Thank you!
Name: Seth n Sam .....
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Weluvroses
Apr 28, 2020 9:42 PM CST
I dont think I would cut any of those off yet. Not until other Budeyes atleast start to swell and grow. It may shock the small plant cutting off the much new growth. If it was mine. I would wait until you have some more growth before any pruning to it. But that's just me.
Name: Rosemary
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reh0622
Apr 29, 2020 4:36 PM CST
I don't know how long these canes are, but Regan Nursery tells you to shorten the canes to around 6 in., and normally, you don't want canes growing across the center of the bush.
Name: Lee-Roy
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Arico
Apr 29, 2020 4:52 PM CST
Weluvroses said:I dont think I would cut any of those off yet. Not until other Budeyes atleast start to swell and grow. It may shock the small plant cutting off the much new growth. If it was mine. I would wait until you have some more growth before any pruning to it. But that's just me.


Chance of other buds growing is small due to apical dominance. When they're rubbed off however, the suppressive hormones they produced will be gone and new shoots will grow.

And shock how? It won't kill it.
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
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seilMI
Apr 29, 2020 5:38 PM CST
From personal experience I've found that that white growth never really greens up and is weak. Take it off and let the plant start again. I don't recommend pruning off any of the other canes length though. They look like they've been pruned back pretty far already. You don't say where you are or what your weather is like. If it is hot and dry you may want to mound up some soil on the canes to keep them moist until they bud out.
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jerijen
Apr 30, 2020 5:30 PM CST
I have always been told to remove those sprouts. They're only going to pull some of the stored energy in the plant, but won't amount to much.
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Weluvroses
May 1, 2020 9:17 AM CST
jerijen said:I have always been told to remove those sprouts. They're only going to pull some of the stored energy in the plant, but won't amount to much.


So new bare roots from say DA more than likely have new pink sprouts like that. At least most I've seen shipped to people this year. You would break those off?
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RpR
May 1, 2020 1:05 PM CST
You can always remove, you cannot put back.
Give it a little time.

Measure twice, cut once.

NatsRose
May 2, 2020 10:39 AM CST
Thanks everyone! Lots of advice to get me thinking. So far I just took a couple of the inner facing ones off and then mounded over the plant with super fine much. I don't think we get a 70 degree day for another week but it looked like that's what my local rose society recommended doing. I'm in zone 8b in Northwest Washington. When I unmound it in a week or two, I'll reassess based on how it looks then. Perhaps I'll do a little experiment and see what happens on canes I remove them from vs. leave on.

NatsRose
May 16, 2020 2:16 PM CST
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Alright, here's an update after 2 and a half weeks. I had it mounded for a week and a half with mulch when the shoots started popping through. I unmounded it. It seemed a couple of the canes had some die-back and so I trimmed off the unhappy portions. I'm not sure the mounding was necessary for the temperatures we had and it probably encouraged a little of this die-back. Of course, once I unmounded it the temperature got really hot for 2 days so I made an alternate shade setup to protect the plant which seemed to work well.

Overall the plant is looking fairly happy with the shoots I left on it. Their leaves are starting to get greener with some sun and they are growing more upwards now. The middle two pictures I tried to take from the same angles as the original post but also making sure I captured the additional growth in there. I think leaving most of them seems like the right move, and if I had pruned the canes down more, there wouldn't be much of any cane left.

The last picture is of where one of the largest shoots was that I had removed. You can see where new growth is growing around the spot where I removed it. That shoot had been crossing a few branches, but I do sort of wish I had left it to know what would have happened with it since the other shoots have been doing so well. Overall, a fun experiment though!

This is my first rose plant, so I appreciate everyone's feedback and support!

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