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Name: Jean
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succulentlife
May 1, 2020 12:05 PM CST
Anyone have info on this variety. Tag long gone.

Thanks.
Name: Big Bill
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BigBill
May 1, 2020 12:22 PM CST
It is a Cattleya hybrid. Exactly which one, it is extremely difficult to say.

Could you include a image of the pseudobulbs and leaves? And how long is the bloom spike. Measure from the point of the attachment to the pseudobulb and to the point of attachment to the flower.
The reason I am asking is to try to come up with an answer for you. In the lip I see evidence of Cattleya
lueddemanniana. But I see a couple of possibilities for the other parent. It could be Laelia anceps. I also think that Cattleya intermedia is a possibility. But if I see the bulbs and leaves I could be a bit more accurate.
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Name: Jean
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succulentlife
May 1, 2020 1:23 PM CST
Hi Bill,
Here are some more photos. Sorry about its appearance, this orchid really needs some love! Crying

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Name: Big Bill
Livonia, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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BigBill
May 1, 2020 2:16 PM CST
Well I don't see any evidence of Laelia anceps so for now the best I can do is a hybrid possibly of Cattleya lueddemanniana by Cattleya intermedia. It has been registered for sure so I'll see if @Australis can get a name for you.
I have a software issue at the moment and can't get into that program on my laptop.
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Name: Jean
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succulentlife
May 1, 2020 2:24 PM CST
Thank You! For all your help. Will definitely take better care of it.
Name: Big Bill
Livonia, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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BigBill
May 1, 2020 2:48 PM CST
You can go to the American Orchid Society web site, AOS.org and on their home page under membership I think it is, pull down that tab. You find culture sheets there. There is one about growing Cattleyas. It is a downloadable printable file that will give you the basics.
Those are three hours of direct sunlight, morning better then afternoon.
Repot every 2-3 years. Keeping the mix fresh so the roots do not rot.
Water in a 5" pot roughly once every five days. Let it go dry a bit before watering again.
Temperature range of 55-85.

The key to orchid growing is healthy roots: healthy plant!!
Welcome.
Browse our Orchid Forums because they are full of wonderful threads with lots of questions, answers and great people who love to help! The current bloom thread "what is in bloom for May 2020" has daily posts of beautiful images. Again good luck!
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Name: Carol
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ctcarol
May 1, 2020 6:46 PM CST
Yes! And we definitely need some more OC orchid growers here!
Name: Joshua
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Australis
May 1, 2020 7:20 PM CST

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Hi Jean,

Does the name Cattleya Claradiana sound familiar? That is the registered hybrid of Cattleya intermedia X Cattleya lueddemanniana, the two possible parents of your plant.
Plant Authorities: Catalogue of Life (Species) --- International Cultivar Registration Authorities (Cultivars) --- RHS Orchid Register --- RHS Lilium Register
My Notes: Orchid Genera HTML PDF Excel --- Lilium Traits HTML PDF --- Lilium Species Crosses HTML PDF Excel --- Lilium Species Diagram
The current profile image is that of Iris 'Volcanic Glow'.
Name: Big Bill
Livonia, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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BigBill
May 1, 2020 7:47 PM CST
Thanks Australis!
By the way Jean, you have a very pretty bloom there!
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Name: Big Bill
Livonia, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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BigBill
May 1, 2020 7:54 PM CST
There is another possibility that I just thought of. A spring blooming Cattleya species that could be a possibility is Cattleya mossiae X Cattleya intermedia. My brain is toast tonight but it seems to me that flowers from that hybrid are kind of floppy. They take that feature from the mossiae parent. But mossiae typically blooms around Mother's Day, mid April through May.

I need to "social distance" my butt over to my son's house tomorrow and see if he can fix whatever Fad did to mess up his laptop because being unable to get into the Orchid Wiz is like trying to fly blind!!!
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Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
May 1, 2020 11:42 PM CST

Plants SuperMod

If it is a hybrid of Cattleya mossiae and C. intermedia, then it has multiple names - C. Undine (accepted), C. Mackayi (synonym) and C. Dusseldorfei (synonym).
Plant Authorities: Catalogue of Life (Species) --- International Cultivar Registration Authorities (Cultivars) --- RHS Orchid Register --- RHS Lilium Register
My Notes: Orchid Genera HTML PDF Excel --- Lilium Traits HTML PDF --- Lilium Species Crosses HTML PDF Excel --- Lilium Species Diagram
The current profile image is that of Iris 'Volcanic Glow'.
Name: Big Bill
Livonia, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Region: United States of America Critters Allowed Growing under artificial light Echinacea Hostas Region: Michigan
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BigBill
May 2, 2020 4:26 AM CST
Well I only suggested that mossiae scenarios because of this being the season for mossiae to bloom.
And mossiae has a similar blotch of uneven color in the front part of the lip. But what I don't see is mossiae's floppiness! It usually is noticeable in primary hybrids. However intermedia is a good dominant species for form so it would not be unexpected in this case.
But this whole attempt at solving "the lost tag issues" is no small feat!
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Name: Jean
San Clemente, CA (Zone 10a)
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succulentlife
May 2, 2020 8:41 AM CST
Bill and Joshua,

Cattleya Claradiana seems very close but C. Undine and C. Dusseldorfei looks close also. So many lovely varieties! Just knowing it's a Cattleya helps immensely. Will be able to take better care of it. Downloaded the Culture sheet. It does seem to like its location.

Thank You! for all your research!! Jean
Name: Jean
San Clemente, CA (Zone 10a)
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succulentlife
May 2, 2020 8:46 AM CST
Hi Carol,
I'm afraid I'm a lazy orchid grower. Probably too many plants so orchids take a back seat to care. The Culture sheets should help. More info, better care. Crossing Fingers!
Name: Big Bill
Livonia, Michigan (Zone 6a)
American Orchid Society Judge
Region: United States of America Critters Allowed Growing under artificial light Echinacea Hostas Region: Michigan
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BigBill
May 2, 2020 8:46 AM CST
Oh you are very welcome! So happy you found us. Lovey dubby
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