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May 3, 2020 10:09 AM CST
New York
Hello everyone or anyone! I've never posted here so forgive me if I'm wrong for being here, but I need someone's help! It's just now heading into summer & all sorts of plants and flowers and coming up fast on my property. I'm renting, and the owner said "it's some kind of bamboo", and that there's some kind of vines that are hard to kill and get too overgrown and take over the fence? She said it's all been here since before they owned the house (so about 9 years I think). We figured out there's Hostas out front, but out back there's 3 things growing that we aren't sure of. I'll try to post pictures of all 3. The single grass looking things I'm hoping are lily of the valleys, I hope! But if anyone can tell me what these could be that would be wonderful! There's about 15 of the "bamboos" tallest is 2ft, and about 5 of the curly things (I never sent her a pic of these curly things coming from the ground- but maybe that's what she was calling vines? Or it's the piece of plant that's actually growing on the fence- which has the same leaf petals as the bamboo), and a toooon of the single "grass" pieces sprouting, and they're ALL coming up fast, everyday they're bigger. I swear the "grass" pieces came up overnight! I'm afraid of the bamboo being Japanese knotweed because it's so close to my house :/. I know I'm in zoning 5b & these are all in my backyard together in the corner, if that helps! I'm sorry this is fairly long, I just need help! Thank you so much!!




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May 3, 2020 11:05 AM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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Welcome!

I'm not sure what #1 is but it isn't bamboo or knotweed.

The tall pencil things are probably coming up from a bulb. They remind me of Soloman's Seal - you will know soon.

The curly things are ferns.
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May 3, 2020 11:14 AM CST
Name: stone
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top pic sure looks like Japanese knotweed to me...
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May 3, 2020 11:22 AM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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You would know better than I Stone. It doesn't grow in Nevada. I just found this from the University of New Hampshire:

"Unfortunately, it crowds out native species and can grow at a rate of up to 8 centimeters a day in the spring. It's found in every state except North Dakota, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Florida and Hawaii. Many people mistake Japanese knotweed for bamboo, as the stems are jointed and hollow."

Thanks Stone!
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May 3, 2020 12:07 PM CST
New York
I was trying to figure out how to reply to both of you (Stone & Daisy) so I hope you see this. I live in upstate new York and there's a main river in my back yard. Well technically my next door neighbor is in the backyard between the river and I lol, and I know that it can spread through flooding (knotweed) and it's a horribly invasive species. But I just dug further into the internet and I do believe it is knot weed. My backyard neighbor has more then I do, but it's all near eachother. I counted how many shoots/canes I have and there's about 34. :/ I'm afraid because I know they can rip through concrete and damage housing, and they are pretty close to my house. My other neighbor has one growing AGAINST her house :(. We all live very VERY close lol. I'm gonna try to post some more pictures, but it looks like Bohemian or Giant knotweed leafs. Yesterday they looked 2ft tall but today I'm looking and they look 2.5-3ft now :(. They're heart shape leaves with maroon. Some leaves have a point and some have a rounded tip, but they're ALL heart shaped. All growing near fence & one or two pics of it growing into the fence right by my house. I figured the curly's might be ferns but I wasn't sure. I must note this entire area is dirt? There's no grass? Maybe crab grass, & other weeds. But no real grass. The people before us DIDNT take care of the place and there were matted down leaves EVERYWHERE, and under the leaves was this dirt area. But it's weird because there's no actual grass, just weed. Anyone know about the grass sprout shoot looking ones? I added another pic of that, which looks like it's unraveling. I'm sorry I type so much, I always over explain things. I'm all ears!

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May 3, 2020 12:37 PM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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hate to tell you this... but matted down leaves...isn't a sign of "not taking care of the place" In my book... far more desirable to have a nice mulch of tree leaves than a lawn.

Those tree leaves break down and turn into top soil... that lawn... IDK, I reckon It's ok if you have a milk cow or some sheep...

Re the bottom pic... Daisy thoughtt that might be solomon seal... I can't tell enough to rule it out or in, yet... let it grow some more.

re the japanese buckwheat? Maybe mow it down and then cover with an old wall to wall carpet?
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May 3, 2020 12:39 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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The grass type ones are the ones I said are some sort of bulb. You will have to wait until the unfurl more to really figure them out. Post again once the leaves are open.
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May 3, 2020 5:51 PM CST
Name: Sally
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Last picture is lily of the valley.
I agree re Japanese knotweed.
Plant it and they will come.
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May 3, 2020 5:55 PM CST
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Japanese knotweed. Also know as ornamental bamboo.
Google how to contain/destroy it. It also spreads by seeds.
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May 6, 2020 4:24 PM CST
New York
Update: 100% knotweed, and I am waiting on the single pieces to unravel into something. The curly things I believe are a fern of some type, but I wasn't expecting it. I'm taking care of the knotweed but now I'm into some more things that I'll post about in a new question. I mean it when I say the last resident didn't take care of the place at all. I asked the neighbor, & she said while he was here it was a sight for sore eyes. Our entire front & side yard is only weeds, maybe 10% actual grass on the entire property. . Specifically dandelions, crabgrass, bullthistle, wild violets, some plantains, & other things. I can't get a picture because it's raining, but there's some kind of weed taking over the front yard & I can't find it ANYWHERE online. Driving me nuts 😐. Small pouts of mini things taking up the bare spots. But thank you all so much for the help!
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May 6, 2020 4:43 PM CST
Name: Sally
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your picture with the white wall kind of says it all. Hope you are up for some work!
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May 6, 2020 5:24 PM CST
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@Sally oh I know. Sad thing is, that white wall is my neighbor. And they have knotweed on their side, and so does my other neighbor to the right of the picture. (Theyre our next door neighbor, but they're in the backyard instead of the side like your typical neighbor is.) I counted 35 knotweed on my side of the fence. The tallest was just reaching my chest, I'm 5'4. The smallest was just sprouted. White wall has 3, and the backyard neighbor has more then I do, but mine are taller/bigger. There's nothing in that part of the backyard either- zero grass. It was all matted leaves when the snow melted (we moved in December 1st so yard work wasn't an option). Only knotweed, ferns, possibly lily of the valley & a giant pine tree (to the left) in that corner. And then wild violets around where I was standing. Other then that, just dirt and pine needles! Confused Crying
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May 7, 2020 6:21 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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notsosunnystate said: Our entire front & side yard is only weeds, maybe 10% actual grass on the entire property.
Specifically dandelions, wild violets, some plantains, & other things.


I'd rather have the "weeds".

even the thistle is better to have than the turf... the goldfinches are eating the seeds at my house...

and... last week I made a nice salad where wild violet leaves made an appearance!

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talinum paniculatum leaves, smilax tips, lactucca (wild lettuce tips), wood violet leaves,chenopodium giganteum tips, florida stachys tubers...
The entire salad was "weeds"!
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Nov 29, 2020 6:45 AM CST
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It was ID'ed earlier as Japanese knotweed
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Dec 4, 2020 12:46 AM CST
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@Brennyss, and @criro26, this was IDed back in May.
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Dec 13, 2020 4:38 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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I think @criro26 was trying to get inspiration for bamboo uses. criro26, you should probably start a new thread in another Forum. You will receive lots of feedback in "Ask a Question" or "All Things Gardening".
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