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May 6, 2020 5:56 PM CST
New York
Okay I promise this is my last post for tonight, but I have one last question. Can anyone identify this? This and moss is taking over my front yard & it pulls up super easily. I tried a high concentrate of glyphosate and it isn't working well? I live in NY, zone 5b I believe, I hope that will help. I have crabgrass and it looks nothing like this when sprouting, but google keeps pulling that up! I tried to circle a couple, but this is a bunch I have a picture of. Infront of me is a line of bushes infront of the house and I was cleaning up the leaves and old mulch that slid through the lawn. This section lawn has the most (I say I have 4 small lawns lol. The sidewalk and driveway breaks them up because the driveway goes all the way down the hill to the backyard fence. 1 lawn is this area, 2nd lawn I call the driveway area, 3rd lawn is side of house, and back yard is dirt with knotweed. Very uniformative, but this is the only part that it REALLY grows in.)
It's like a prominent X shape with extra little leaves. Maybe I'm crazy but I seriously cannot figure out what it is.

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May 7, 2020 11:33 AM CST
Name: one-eye-luke US.Vet.
Texas (Zone 8a)
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Roundup doesn't work unless its hot for 3 days in a row and the best temp is 89 ot 92 degrees. You can pull those weeds with a strait hoe.
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May 7, 2020 3:17 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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Round-Up is not a contact killer either. It takes time to be absorbed by the plant and kill the root. If you use the concentrate too strong, it won't work as it is meant to. A stronger concentration may work if the shelf life has gone south...or maybe not. In any case "actively growing" is the ideal time to use it. In your case, I would agree that a hoe is your best bet.
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May 9, 2020 3:05 PM CST
New York
They started wilting and browning, but I'll still dig them up. There's just so many of them. Anyone have advice for moss too? Pull it? I just want the weeds gone. I'd rather start fresh and build my yard from dirt. I know you could build it off weeds but I just don't want to :/ especially all the moss. It's on my driveway too, old broken black tar. Thank You! I tip my hat to you.
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May 9, 2020 6:58 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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Sounds like a drainage problem. You may have to start with soil.
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May 17, 2020 9:19 AM CST
New York
Ctcarol: how though? Honestly have no idea where to start. I can only say the house is 80-90 years old, the driveway is very broken up. We live next to a river, couldn't say how far & it has flooded twice so I don't know if that would have made a difference. There's moss/weeds poking in the blacktop in spots. The yard, moss mixed with these weeds + dandelions + crabgrass + a couple more that I can't identify. There is bits of grass, tangled with moss. IMO very unkept. The last tenant did nothing, at all. Only broke and ruined things. My landlord was the last person who lived here that took care of it. (2014, 2016 is when they left I believe). I honestly started ripping up this part of the lawn, leaving me with thick heavy dirt. (Best way to describe it.) it maintains water well. I think there's deliberately sand in the gardens. It's weird. Sand is the only way to describe the top layer. Under, if you dig about a centimeter down, is the thick dark dirt. Molds together well is another way to describe it. I don't know the worlds most about soil, only a few things. Any tips I'd appreciate. I think our soil is acidic, based on what's growing (also have knotweed our back). I don't know how scientifically accurate it is but I did the baking soda/vinegar jar test with the dirt, and it showed more alkaline? But I don't believe it at all.. Thumbs down Confused sorry for the super long message.
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May 17, 2020 3:18 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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You'll have to hope someone else will chime in for the how. I live in southern Ca. where water is in short supply and drainage is great in most cases. Sounds like you will have to kill the weeds, then put down some good topsoil and either reseed or install sod if you want lawn.
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May 17, 2020 3:18 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
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You'll have to hope someone else will chime in for the how. I live in southern Ca. where water is in short supply and drainage is great in most cases. Sounds like you will have to kill the weeds, then put down some good topsoil and either reseed or install sod if you want lawn.
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May 17, 2020 3:18 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
You'll have to hope someone else will chime in for the how. I live in southern Ca. where water is in short supply and drainage is great in most cases. Sounds like you will have to kill the weeds, then put down some good topsoil and either reseed or install sod if you want lawn.
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May 17, 2020 6:43 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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Sorry for the duplicates! When I hit finish the wheel just keeps going around, and then I get an error massage. Never know if it got sent, or not.
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May 23, 2020 8:27 AM CST
New York
Ctcarol, it's okay! Thank you! I'm currently trying to find out what to do with the lawn. I did rip out every single thing so it's just bare dirt. But there's bush&tree feeder roots everywhere above ground, so I'm afraid to rototill. I might just try heavy raking & mix in compost/manure/topsoil. :/ this place needs ALOT of TLC, not just the lawn! Crying
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