Daylilies forum: Daylilys stunted..Buds should be on stems 34 to 36 -38 inches tall!

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Name: Sheridragonfly/Sheri
Alabama (Zone 8b)
Salvias Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Sheridragonfly
May 13, 2020 12:33 PM CST
I had mentioned that last year my daylilies that had all been tall foliage,lush
and photogenic blooms for many years and not crowded...
had just about died...became sparse and tiny....last year
and I had thought some older fertilizer might have caused that to happen..

I am attaching pictures of two beds of daylilies of mine.
Notice that the buds are at the base of the daylily hill
when they should be standing at the top of 34 inch tall
stem...and ready to open from now to June...
most of mine were all in bloom by mid may to memorial
weekend...every year...

Does anyone know what might be causing 2 years of stunted plants and
dwarfed stunted buds?

Many are not going to bloom and are so sparse as you will see
they are nothing in appearance like the plants they were 3 years ago..

I used only milorganite this past March on each hill and they have been watered
by hand well when dry this year also..

I am spraying them twice a month with a fungicide when the sun is not hot
on the plants..early morning..

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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
May 13, 2020 1:59 PM CST
It's very difficult to water plants well enough by hand when the soil is dry, especially in a raised bed. Have you dug down to see if it is moist beneath the surface? What kind of soil is it, it looks rather light coloured and dense. Have you done a soil test?
Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
May 13, 2020 4:03 PM CST
Potassium is a macronutrient that is lacking in Milorganite. Deficiency can, from what I've read, lead to stunted plant growth. Particularly in a raised bed, where all they get, is what you give them. That soil looks sandy almost? If so, it won't hold much in the way of nutrients or moisture. Just a thought.
Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Altheabyanothername
May 13, 2020 6:01 PM CST
I have some daylilies in certain "paths" or areas that are very stunted this year. The scapes are stunted but the flowers are full size. Six inch scapes with six inch flowers. Not a potassium problem on my end because they have been given bone meal. Watering is not the problem either. It happens to daylilies in the containers and inground. I have not had freezes last one Feb. 27. No root knot nematodes. I have other daylilies not affected in the least. I had alot of irises abort their blooms in strange ways. The iris are in the same vicinity. I have ruled certain things out and beginning to believe EMF is to blame. Sometimes these 5G people sound odd maybe even a little crazy, but I think there is something there. Oh well...as I look for answers EMF radiation keeps popping up. Shrug!

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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
May 13, 2020 6:08 PM CST
Altheabyanothername said: Not a potassium problem on my end because they have been given bone meal.


Bone meal is not a source of potassium, perhaps you're thinking of phosphorous?

Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Altheabyanothername
May 13, 2020 7:02 PM CST
Yes... Sue. I use a 10-10-10 release also, bone meal which has phosphorous and slight potassium, amongst other things.

I had an iris that formed a fertilized seed pod before it formed a real stalk or flower. I kept looking at it thinking what is wrong with that iris...why the bulge down in the iris leaf? It was a seed pod it never developed a real flower just one fall. A fertilized seed pod formed before a flower was formed. It formed almost right out of the rhizome? I had two patches of dutch iris that were white with yellow. Iris can not change colors. One patch bloomed totally blue this year. They did change colors.

Last year I had a daylily develop 3 pistons...
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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
May 13, 2020 8:04 PM CST
Altheabyanothername said:
Last year I had a daylily develop 3 pistons...


The style of a daylily pistil is really three parts "fused" together into one but sometimes they fail to join together - that looks like what's happened with yours because the three separate parts appear quite thin.

Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Altheabyanothername
May 13, 2020 8:51 PM CST
Here is a frontal picture... they do not look like they all originate from the same place. Two might come from the same place but one did not. At times I get a lot of two pistols, also.

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I appreciate your help.

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Name: Roger & Karen
Birmingham, Al (Zone 7a)
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Diggerofdirt
May 13, 2020 9:04 PM CST
The only thing I can come up with is warm rainy winter. Some of ours look wonderful. We have them in the ground and in raised beds. The best looking raised bed is in a low. The ground holds water there. The beds that are in ground are mostly mid season bloomers and they are coming up great despite us needing to water our clay rich soil. Its cold nights also. The scapes that popped up first didnt even get 6 inches out of ground before blooming. Sure hoping for a good rebloom. Had a May frost whats up with that. Crazy weather. Our blooms look just like Sheri. Smiling Cobra was around 3 inches what a disappointment. Weather i assume is our problem. Weatherman is calling for warmer nights no rain guess we cant have all of what we want. Sighing!
Every home needs a daylily, and every daylily needs a home.
Name: Sheridragonfly/Sheri
Alabama (Zone 8b)
Salvias Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Sheridragonfly
May 15, 2020 2:44 PM CST
thanks to all...

The raised bed is doing the same thing as the unraised bed..

That area that is not raised is bought soil , black soil and way down deep is clay.
The area has grown luscious tall and blooming daylilys for over a decade there..
Nothing changed.. The 10 10 10 used last year was used every prior year for over 10 years on March lst...It did great, never burned and they flourished..

Last march used an older bag of 10 10 10 or so and they got stunted and looked to be dying and each plant lost at least 70 percent of its fans..

I actually thought of something strange like the person mentioned on 5G..
I also notice not one butterfly this spring or now in May..
Last year the dragonflys did not come..

its not from anything I am doing and I am rural and perfect wooded
environment here and a lake close by.

I am just out of answers finding them..
They are the worst 2 inch buds trying to open out of the base of the daylily plant.
There is California sunshine bloom open today and its at the base of the
daylily plant..almost open on the ground and that is a tall stemmed daylily
normally in all my past years.

Sheri/sheridragonfly
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
Daylilies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies Annuals
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sooby
May 15, 2020 3:46 PM CST
It is possible for plants to be stunted because of too much of a nutrient (which may accumulate over a number of years) as well as too little, that's why a soil test can still be a good idea. Quite often when I've suggested that to people the results were not that something was needed but that something had become too high, and they were advised not to apply any more of that nutrient.
Name: Sheridragonfly/Sheri
Alabama (Zone 8b)
Salvias Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Sheridragonfly
May 16, 2020 11:38 AM CST
Again thanks for advising..
This morning I went out and I took a pronged hoe/rake and I dug down around every one of the daylilies..
There was moisture there around every one below the surface.
I then watered each one slowly with a wand and water hose
after loosening the soil around each one.

The lady and her husband Terri and Rick had a beautiful daylily farm in their home yard
I had bought from in the past in South east Alabama..
She used milorganite on her daylilies..and no other fertilizer and sprayed for
prevention of rust ..
She had the healthiest plants...Her home and daylilys with walking stones
where you just walked along the paths to choose the plants you wanted
were just a joy to go there...

Anyway I took these pictures after loosing the soil today
and several of them are suppose to be 37 inches tall scapes/stems
They were in the past years.

I will not post on this again..but thanks for replying!

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