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North Carolina (Zone 7b)
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Nouveau11
May 13, 2020 5:49 PM CST
Hello!

New at Gardening and need a little help and advice!

I bought these three rose bushes today at Lowe's Home Improvement:

* Orange Floribunda Rose Marine
* Lemon Fizz Kolorscape (KORfizziem pp 24,195)
* Lavender Veranda (KORfloci67)

1. What is the best soil to purchase? I'm putting these in the ground, but the ground around my house is clay, so I will have to dig the hole and fill it with the soil.

2. What kind of Rose Food is best to buy and how often should I feed them?

3. On the back of the description tag it says to use multi-purpose rose spray every two weeks in hot humid weather. What is Multi-purpose Rose Spray?

4. How often should I fertilize the Roses?

5. Two of the tags say sun to shade. My yard gets sun most of the day - 6 to eight hours - will that be okay?

They all have directions on how to care attached, but they're vague to me...or maybe I'm afraid I'll use the wrong products. *Blush* Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank You! Smiling

Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
May 13, 2020 6:22 PM CST
Hello and welcome to the site and to the world of roses!

It would be very helpful if you would put your location and zone on your page so it will show up here. If not please at least give us some idea of where you live. It makes a difference! I live in Michigan and you may be in California. Those are two very different climates!

I'll try to give you some general information but it will depend some on your location.

1. If you are planting them in the ground any good quality garden soil will work (I've used the one at Lowes before and it was fine) but with clay soil you will have to dig deep and do a drainage test first. Dig your hole and then fill it up with water and walk away. Come back in an hour and see what happened. Is the hole empty of water or still full? If the hole is empty or nearly so you're good to go. If there is still a lot of water in the hole you need to dig deeper and repeat the test until the hole drains. Roses like a lot of water but will die if their roots are sitting in a pool of it all the time.

2. Any well balanced fertilizer will work. Follow all the directs for how and how often to apply it. You can add organics to feed your soil at any time. Organics are things like composted manure, fish emulsion, alfalfa meal or tea, that kind of thing. Any thing that is good for the soil is good for the roses.

3. They mean chemical sprays for insects and diseases on the back of the tags. You may or may not want to do this. I do not use chemicals sprays in my garden. Too many of them kill the good bugs as well as the bad but that's a personal decision you'll have to make.

4, I always give mine a granular slow release fertilizer, scratched into the soil, in the spring when I prune. After that I use liquid foliar fertilizers (Miracle Grow, Spray n Gro, whatever I have) according to the package instructions. You don't need to over do the fertilizer. You can actually kill a rose by over fertilizing it.

5. I don't know of any rose that will grow and bloom properly in less than 6 hours, and preferably 8 hours, of direct sunlight! I don't know who writes these instructions but they don't grow roses! It sounds like your garden will be fine.

6. Try to remember to relax and enjoy your roses, lol! Roses are survivors. They will over come lots of obstacles to grow and bloom. You really don't have to fuss over them all that much.
North Carolina (Zone 7b)
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Nouveau11
May 13, 2020 8:03 PM CST
seilMI said:Hello and welcome to the site and to the world of roses!

It would be very helpful if you would put your location and zone on your page so it will show up here. If not please at least give us some idea of where you live. It makes a difference! I live in Michigan and you may be in California. Those are two very different climates!

I'll try to give you some general information but it will depend some on your location.

1. If you are planting them in the ground any good quality garden soil will work (I've used the one at Lowes before and it was fine) but with clay soil you will have to dig deep and do a drainage test first. Dig your hole and then fill it up with water and walk away. Come back in an hour and see what happened. Is the hole empty of water or still full? If the hole is empty or nearly so you're good to go. If there is still a lot of water in the hole you need to dig deeper and repeat the test until the hole drains. Roses like a lot of water but will die if their roots are sitting in a pool of it all the time.

2. Any well balanced fertilizer will work. Follow all the directs for how and how often to apply it. You can add organics to feed your soil at any time. Organics are things like composted manure, fish emulsion, alfalfa meal or tea, that kind of thing. Any thing that is good for the soil is good for the roses.

3. They mean chemical sprays for insects and diseases on the back of the tags. You may or may not want to do this. I do not use chemicals sprays in my garden. Too many of them kill the good bugs as well as the bad but that's a personal decision you'll have to make.

4, I always give mine a granular slow release fertilizer, scratched into the soil, in the spring when I prune. After that I use liquid foliar fertilizers (Miracle Grow, Spray n Gro, whatever I have) according to the package instructions. You don't need to over do the fertilizer. You can actually kill a rose by over fertilizing it.

5. I don't know of any rose that will grow and bloom properly in less than 6 hours, and preferably 8 hours, of direct sunlight! I don't know who writes these instructions but they don't grow roses! It sounds like your garden will be fine.

6. Try to remember to relax and enjoy your roses, lol! Roses are survivors. They will over come lots of obstacles to grow and bloom. You really don't have to fuss over them all that much.


Thank you so much! Your post is very helpful. Going to plant them tomorrow! Will post pictures. I'm in North Carolina / 7b by the way! Smiling Thumbs up
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Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
May 14, 2020 4:53 PM CST
NC zone 7b is a bit warmer than me but most of what I said should hold true for you. You may want to plant the graft/bud union a few inches below the soil level as a winter protection. I do this here but it may not be necessary in zone 7. You should get in touch with a local rose society. I'm sure there are some in NC. They will have really good information about what to do that will be specif to your area and conditions. You can find one and a contact person on The American Rose Society website.
https://www.rose.org
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
May 14, 2020 5:04 PM CST
One thing ... That Clay soil . . . As Seil said, dig the hole, and then check the drainage. We had ONE place where the clay soil was so dense, we had to dig further down and put broken rock in the bottom, to make a place for the water to go!

Also ... Best practice is to not use fertilizer until after the first flush of bloom has come and gone. Too much, too early, the rose can't deal with it, as it has no thin, thread-like feeder roots yet.

But the BEST advice is to find a local rose society.
Check at: https://www.rose.org/local-ros...

There are 9 local societies, so it's probable that at least one of them is close enough to you to be helpful.
North Carolina (Zone 7b)
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Nouveau11
May 16, 2020 5:37 PM CST
Thanks so much for the advice. I managed to get them planted the other day - and what a massive job - but well worth it. I did dig the hole until the water (finally!) drained. I haven't fertilized them yet. I bought miracle gro food for roses but then I read it's not that great of a product and can burn the roses. One article said to use a fish based fertilizer. Again I'm just learning and I've got a lot to learn about! Here are a few pictures. Please let me know if they look okay! I used Miracle Gro all purpose soil and mixed compost in with it. They seem happy at the moment! I hope they are with me for a very long time!

North Carolina (Zone 7b)
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Nouveau11
May 16, 2020 5:40 PM CST
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