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Name: Paula Benyei
NYC suburbs (Zone 6b)
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Turbosaurus
May 14, 2020 7:30 PM CST
This is many years old..
You can see where the stems have gotten tall as old leaves die and new leaves replace them. Are these little bumps ready to become roots?

I dont want to put it in a bigger pot. Ive potted it up twice and I really dont have space to keep going bigger. Im hoping I can prune the roots and bury it deeper in the same pot.
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Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
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Gina1960
May 15, 2020 6:24 AM CST
Yes those are new roots forming. Many palms will develop some form of 'stilt' root to help stabilize them as they get taller. A lot of the very old very tall landscape palms in Florida have these external root masses. My Mexican fan palms, which are about 30 years old, have them. You can keep it same size pot and just repot, or you can bury them.
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Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
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Gina1960
May 15, 2020 6:33 AM CST
This is what you see around here with most palms of any longevity
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Name: Paula Benyei
NYC suburbs (Zone 6b)
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Turbosaurus
May 15, 2020 6:34 PM CST
Yeah! Repotted today...
But then I see your warm weather trunks and I feel like such a jerk for even trying to keeping this plant in NY. Yes, it's alive and green, watered appropriately and blooms every February, For at least 6 years, but it's clearly stunted at barely 3ft tall. Then I move it outside in spring and it almost always gets a sunburn sooner or later when I'm not careful...

The More I learn, the better I get at taking care of my plants, the more guilty I feel for keeping them alive in sub optimal conditions.

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Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
Region: Florida Tropicals Aroids
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Gina1960
May 15, 2020 6:42 PM CST
You shouldn't feel that way. The same could be said for some of my really ultra tropical plants that have to live in a greenhouse LOL instead of out in the yard
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Name: Paula Benyei
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Turbosaurus
May 15, 2020 6:45 PM CST
If it were only this one, I might agree.... but it's not
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Name: Will Creed
NYC
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WillC
May 16, 2020 8:42 AM CST
That's amazing, Paula, that you have kept your Majesty Palm for so long. Please post a photo that shows the whole plant and tell us the secret of your success in keeping it as an indoor houseplant for most of the year.
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Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
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Gina1960
May 16, 2020 4:45 PM CST
Stilt/adventitious roots on palms can look pretty cool. They serve a purpose, the palms that develop them do so as a defense against animal predation. I have read that Majesty will also do it because they normally grow in habitat in swamps and even in lightly moving water so they need stability.

I got this palm 18 years ago BECAUSE it makes stilt roots...its taken it this long to get these. When they get really old the stilts make little tee-pees that can be 3-4 feet tall. By the time mine does that I will probably be 90.
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Many Areca palms are known to make stilts...this is Areca microcarpa...its habit is to have a long bare trunk and a small crown.
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And Areca vestiaria makes really WILD hugely long stilts...to hold it onto the side of crevasses in the high elevation montagne rainforest. Mine has one that is over 2 feet
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Name: Paula Benyei
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Turbosaurus
May 17, 2020 5:46 PM CST
This was my grandmother's.
It was a gift, a multi planter from a florist. Maybe a 10" diameter pot. Thriller, filler spiller style. Tall palm, with a spilling philodendron a filling prayer plant inside a decorative basket. It was about a foot and a half tall when I noticed it at the funeral Lunch we had at her house, looking sad in January.

Rosie Woods was an amazing gardener. She was 3 weeks before her 90th birthday when she died out of the blue, after she had put the chickens in the barn and went to put food out for the feral cats on the opposite end of her 7 acres. She planted 800 tulips that fall, and had muscles I still envy.

Needless to say this is one of my most treasured plants. I repotted it into a bigger pot that spring, then again into this very deep glazed pot about 2 years ago, again, only in late spring.
All of my plants go out for the summer as soon as temperatures allow. Last summer I screwed up and gave it too much sun, burnt the crap out of it. I moved it to a spot will direct early sun, shade by noon and it flourished again. Inside it lives in a north facing window where it almost never puts up new foliage growth, but blooms every winter.
I repotted it in the same deep pot yesterday, and I pulled the prayer plant out and repotted it separately. It wasn't doing well. it was too tough to keep both happy in a pot this deep, where the palm in the center was always moist but the prayer plant at the edges would often dry out.. it was very interesting that the prayer plants had a tuberous main root that reached Nearly to the bottom of the pot when I pulled it apart, but I have tons of prayer plants I've rooted from this over the last couple years,


But remember, this is grandma Rosie's.. she grew everything like crazy.. I felt like a Lilliputian in her yard... yard, lol, there was no yard.. it was all garden and everything was gigantic..

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Name: Paula Benyei
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Turbosaurus
May 17, 2020 5:48 PM CST
I put a nursery pack of coleus in front of the pot in the second pic for scale.

And I have no idea if it actually is a majesty palm...I'm just guessing. it started very small and refuses to grow more than 2 ft tall.
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Name: Sally
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sallyg
May 18, 2020 7:19 AM CST
Miss Rosie sounds amazing Lovey dubby and I think it's great that she got to do those things on her last day and not be cooped up in some 'old people place.'

I am no expert of course, but I would think parlor palm. I got one in a mixed planter a while ago, and kept it for some years, doing the in and out thing (despite Will's advice tee hee) it was a few stems the tallest up to 2 feet or so, and it did bloom. Did I decide I had too many big plants and culled it?- that does not sound like me, so maybe it actually had too many mites or something else.
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Name: Will Creed
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WillC
May 18, 2020 9:17 AM CST
I agree with Sally. It looks more like a Parlor Palm than the dreaded Majesty Palm. You have done a great job with it!
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Name: Lin Vosbury
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plantladylin
May 18, 2020 9:49 AM CST
I agree, that beauty looks like Parlor Palm (Chamaedorea elegans) Kudos for doing such an amazing job of keeping it happy and healthy! Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up
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Name: Paula Benyei
NYC suburbs (Zone 6b)
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Turbosaurus
May 20, 2020 12:48 PM CST
Really? I didn't think parlors get this big, and even if they eventually did, they would still have smaller leaves at the base...
Can you tell from the fruit? I can take some close ups if it will help. I don't disbelieve, I'm just surprised.

Thank you for your congratulations, but as with every relationship, it's half work and half luck finding the right match..
As for work it was mostly vigilance and patience. So many times I see well meaning people panic and throw everything at the issue; change light and temp and watering schedule and soil and pot and fertilizer.. which is a really good way to kill a struggling plant. I made plenty of mistakes. lots of sunburn, occasionally overwatering when I wasn't careful about monitoring saucers and drainage. But if you take your time and are careful about monitoring and conservative about changes the only hard part is NOT doing something when you're not sure what to do
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Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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plantladylin
May 20, 2020 2:31 PM CST
They can attain heights of 8 to 10 feet. The fruit are tiny little yellowish berries that mature to black when ripe.



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Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
Region: Florida Tropicals Aroids
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Gina1960
May 20, 2020 5:01 PM CST
I know someone in So Cal who inherited a Parlor from her grandmother, it was already 50 years old when she got it and she has had it for about 15 years. It is about 7 feet if I recall
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Name: Will Creed
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WillC
May 20, 2020 5:13 PM CST
Hooray for benign neglect! Hurray!
Will Creed
Horticultural Help, NYC
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Name: Sally
central Maryland
Seriously addicted to kettle chips.
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sallyg
May 20, 2020 7:37 PM CST
Honestly, some of my plants are better off when I toss them out for summer in the shade somewhere and forget them!
i'm pretty OK today, how are you? ;^)

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