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May 17, 2020 7:42 AM CST
Nova Scotia, Canada
My husband and I recently bought a home with a beautiful flower bed in the backyard. However, we found out that it's been overrun by goutweed. I've done a lot of research online and have learned that it's extremely difficult to get rid of. The flower bed is completely full of it so it would be almost impossible to go through and attempt to pick it all out and solarize it...plus, it would end up killing all the other flowers around it. We're wondering if it may just be a better choice to tear up the bed, lay down some kind of ground cover and build a raised bed over it, essentially just covering up the ground completely?
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May 17, 2020 9:06 AM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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Welcome to the site!
A pic would be helpful.
As Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
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May 17, 2020 9:13 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
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I have managed to delete it in three gardens but it's getting every piece of root that takes dedication to the job.

As Rj said, a photo would be a big help.
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May 17, 2020 10:10 AM CST
Nova Scotia, Canada
Thank you!
I've uploaded a couple photos! The garden is a bit of a "wild" garden so everything is all rather mixed in
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May 17, 2020 10:19 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Your photos didn't post. When it's mixed in with other plants, it is more difficult to attack. Lifting surrounding plants can help you get each sprout - a huge job.
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May 17, 2020 10:28 AM CST
Nova Scotia, Canada
Let me try again!
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May 17, 2020 11:25 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
Plant Identifier Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Maybe it's just me but I don't spot the goutweed. This is one of the areas where I had it...and deleted it.
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May 17, 2020 11:33 AM CST
Nova Scotia, Canada
My neighbour said she didn't think it was either because it didn't have white in it but I used a plant identifier and it labeled it as gout weed. Apparently there is a type that's only green.
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May 17, 2020 11:35 AM CST
Nova Scotia, Canada
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May 17, 2020 2:01 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
Plant Identifier Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015
That surprises me but always good to know. It's still the same ordeal of digging them out. Wish I had an easier answer for you but I don't.
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May 17, 2020 2:32 PM CST
Nova Scotia, Canada
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May 17, 2020 3:57 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
Plant Identifier Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Tricky is a good way to describe it.
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May 17, 2020 4:16 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
Forum moderator Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 1
Thinking I would let the garden grow in a little and see what plants are worth keeping. Than decide on your plan of action.

This may be able to give you some information:

https://novascotia.ca/agri/doc...
As Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
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May 17, 2020 5:51 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
Plant Identifier Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Good idea, Rj.
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May 17, 2020 7:35 PM CST
Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6a)
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I have had the variegated and eventually it reverted to all green as it spread. I think the all green ones came from reseeding itself. I used 30% vinegar which seemed to kill much of the variegated but the all green is much harder to kill.
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May 17, 2020 9:29 PM CST
Name: Charlie
Aurora, Ontario (Zone 5b)
Maintenance of Perennial Beds.
Goutweed really is a difficult weed to remove manually. I did succeed with a small spread of the variegated form, though I had been warned that the roots/rhizomes can extend as much as four foot down.

Personally, I would be willing to try the vinegar, as per Bob, but would not use some of the herbicides recommended on-line. Another approach you hear about is covering the beds with tarps, or the like, and leave them down through a growing season. Any plants you wanted to keep could be dug up, cleaned of goutweed and kept potted up.
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May 18, 2020 7:53 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
Plant Identifier Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015
So glad I never knew how deep those roots could go! It might have kept me from attempting removal.

I did the black plastic treatment to rid myself of the evil Houttuynia. That was in 2012. Now it has returned.
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