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viti2106
May 21, 2020 3:27 AM CST
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So today I noticed this brown edge and rip just below the fenestration of my monstera, one week ago she didnt have anything of the sort so now I am a bit freaking out. Upon inspecting past photos, I see she had a faint line at that spot that has now ripped - attaching photo of that as well - it is with the red circle. She looks healthy otherwise, growing a new leaf steadily. She is in a mixture of soil for gree plants, orchids soil, perlite and a bit of coconut coir. I havent watered her in a week as the soil is still moist. As the weather here is still not very warm or bright, she is under a growing lamp for the time being and is kept inside at constant temperatures and humidity at around 60%. She is also in a plant bag instead of a pot to allow for better breathing. Any advice or tips would be much appreciated! Thank you!




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Name: Gina
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Tropical plant collector 35 years
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Gina1960
May 21, 2020 6:58 AM CST
You are being a helicopter plant parent just looking for trouble LOL. It looks like at some point that leaf margin suffered some sort of mechanical damage that injured the tissue and now it has split open. Its no big. It may or may not spread, probably will not, but it depends on how much lateral tissue damage was done at the initial time of the injury. Its dry and brown as opposed to wet and gnarly looking. Just take a deep breath. I know you probably paid an arm and a leg for this plant, but looking for every small imperfection will drive you crazy, and as plants grow and age they do get imperfections. Old leaves die off. Old cataphylls turn brown. Sometimes you get bugs. Plants are like people they are never perfect. I backed into one of the leaves on one of my big big Thai's while I was lugging a ladder around the greenhouse to do maintenance on the attic level plants and snapped the midrib. Was pissed at myself for being careless, but nothing happened. The wound healed, the leaf tilts a little wonky, but its fine. Stuff happens, this likely happened to your plant when it was either harvested for sale of packed into the box. Stuff like this is unavoidable sometimes
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viti2106
May 21, 2020 7:13 AM CST
Gina1960 said:You are being a helicopter plant parent just looking for trouble LOL. It looks like at some point that leaf margin suffered some sort of mechanical damage that injured the tissue and now it has split open. Its no big. It may or may not spread, probably will not, but it depends on how much lateral tissue damage was done at the initial time of the injury. Its dry and brown as opposed to wet and gnarly looking. Just take a deep breath. I know you probably paid an arm and a leg for this plant, but looking for every small imperfection will drive you crazy, and as plants grow and age they do get imperfections. Old leaves die off. Old cataphylls turn brown. Sometimes you get bugs. Plants are like people they are never perfect. I backed into one of the leaves on one of my big big Thai's while I was lugging a ladder around the greenhouse to do maintenance on the attic level plants and snapped the midrib. Was pissed at myself for being careless, but nothing happened. The wound healed, the leaf tilts a little wonky, but its fine. Stuff happens, this likely happened to your plant when it was either harvested for sale of packed into the box. Stuff like this is unavoidable sometimes


Yes, that could be true that I am being a bit hypochondriac when it comes to my plants haha. But it is just because I dont want anything to spread to the others! Maybe doesnt make it better but I look for even the smallest things in plants that cost like 5 euro too lol. I got the Monstera like two weeks ago or so, she was shipped but I didnt notice any damage on the leaves back then. However, the photo where the faint line was is 10 days old. Could it be that it ripped 2 weeks after it got damaged? I am 100% positive that I havent caused any mechanical damage in the 2 weeks during which she was here.
Thank you so so much for your reply! It makes me feel better already!

Btw another question since I couldnt find an answer online: do you know on average how old do the leaves get before they die off? And how would I know its a natural cause of death as opposed to something pest/fungus related? Thank you again for your time!
Name: Gina
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Gina1960
May 21, 2020 7:17 AM CST
How much is 5 euros? And how many euros was this (just curious) you don;t have to say.

You will know a leaf has reached its natural lifespan when it begins to turn yellow/fade and then if you do nothing it will turn brown and just fall off. Usually the oldest leaves (at the bottom) drop first. If you have bigs you will likely be able to tell. And fungal infection is a lot less common than you are led to believe
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viti2106
May 21, 2020 7:21 AM CST
Gina1960 said:How much is 5 euros? And how many euros was this (just curious) you don;t have to say.

You will know a leaf has reached its natural lifespan when it begins to turn yellow/fade and then if you do nothing it will turn brown and just fall off. Usually the oldest leaves (at the bottom) drop first. If you have bigs you will likely be able to tell. And fungal infection is a lot less common than you are led to believe


With the current exchange rate given to me by Google, 5 euro is about 6 dollars and she was about 170 dollars.
So I take it that the rip could have suddenly occured even if the damage was caused 2 weeks ago? Thank you once again for the new infos! She isnt growing like a normal monstera yet, more like lettuce with leaves spreading all around haha :D So I am not even sure which is her bottom part.
Name: Gina
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Gina1960
May 21, 2020 9:22 AM CST
The damage occurred, then the tissue died, and then it died enough that it separated.
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