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May 22, 2020 9:36 AM CST
London
Before I go stark staring mad can anyone explain why, after buying a Pro quality metal connector described by Hozelock as for an outdoor tap with a 1" thread, the item supplied should have a 1.25" width. This seems utterly, utterly barmy to my simple logic. However, I should dearly love to know what size connector I SHOULD order for an outdoor tap with a 1" thread - 3/4" maybe?
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May 22, 2020 9:37 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
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Any chance that this doesn't work due to metric versus inches?
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May 22, 2020 10:28 AM CST
London
BigBill - Nope. They give all measurements in both inches and metric.
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May 22, 2020 10:43 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Oh well. Just a thought.
Taught classes on Orchids and Orchid growing and led hundreds of bird walks. Retired Wildlife Biologist.
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May 22, 2020 10:54 AM CST
London
Big Bill - I think I may have got to the bottom of it. It would appear to be the daftest system of measurement I have yet come across - namely - British Standard Pipe measurement. In this system 1" = 1.25" in reality and, similarly, every other measurement is equally peculiar. So what I need for an outdoor tap with a one inch thread is, in BSP terms, a 3/4" fitting. What hacks me off is that NOWHERE on Hozelock's descriptions of their fittings is this glaring pratfall (for amateurs such as me) explained. I would imagine that I can't have been the first one to have to work all this out the painful way.
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May 22, 2020 11:05 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Oh boy!
As long as you can get it to work, that's great.
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May 22, 2020 4:48 PM CST
Name: Steve
Port Orchard, WA (Zone 8b)
Chris, found your post very interesting. After googling BPS it appears to be similar to the US difference related to the measurement for wood. We call a piece of wood a '2x4', but it's actual measurement is 1.5"x3.5". Both appear to be "Trade Measurements" with no relationship to actual measurements. Two of the main differences between BPS and NPT (used in US) appears to be tthe pitch of the threads and the number of threads per US inch. Also appears that BPS pipes do not require pipe dope to prevent leaks.
Interesting.
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May 22, 2020 5:05 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Years ago, 2 X 4 's were actually a full four inches by two inches. When I remodeled my 1918 colonial on Long Island in 1980, we took out a double hung window and installed a sliding glass door. The door became the entry point from the dining room to the greenhouse that we put up.
Anyway, so much of what we removed were full sized CEDAR 2 x4 's. They were rough sawn and amazing.
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May 22, 2020 5:18 PM CST
Name: Steve
Port Orchard, WA (Zone 8b)
Bill, I remember them also. Makes me suspect that the "Trade Measurements" were due to cost of the extra 1/2". Would not be surprised.
Also brings up the question of how the BPS measurements came about. Do not see how "cost" had much to do with it. Was it related to metrics???
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May 22, 2020 5:56 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
GROW ORCHIDS!!!
Bee Lover Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Orchids Region: Michigan Hostas Growing under artificial light
Echinacea Critters Allowed Cat Lover Butterflies Birds Region: United States of America
It is the way of the economy, just the way things are!
A pack of juicy fruit gum was five cents when I was a kid. 5 sticks, 5 cents. Now in the supermarket it was $1.09 for ten sticks!
When I started driving, gas was .23 a gallon! My first car was a barracuda and I could fill it for three bucks!! It is just the way of the world.
Heck, look at coffee, for years it was so much for a pound. Now it is a thirteen ounce pound or bag. I am starting to see 11 ounce bags of coffee.
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