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Leaf2
May 22, 2020 1:35 PM CST
Hi, I planted my Zephirine Drouhin Climbing Roseabout 3 wks ago (as bare roots), and it's been doing quite well until today, when I noticed that its growing tips have suddenly lost vigor and look like are wilting, all of them. Thanks for any advice.
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W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
May 22, 2020 2:19 PM CST
Are you giving it sufficient waterings? Bare roots need more waterings than container planted Roses..... I have several bare root roses planted this year in the ground. I water them about every 3-4 days depending on how hot it's been.
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
May 22, 2020 2:40 PM CST
Your area is getting rain every day? Am I right?

If that is the case, your rose might have a drainage problem. They "like" to get a good watering, and then be allowed to dry out a little before the next watering.

In continued days of rain, if the drainage is not wonderful, water can build up. If it's sitting in standing water, your rose could actually be drowning.
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Leaf2
May 22, 2020 2:53 PM CST
Weluvroses said:Are you giving it sufficient waterings? Bare roots need more waterings than container planted Roses..... I have several bare root roses planted this year in the ground. I water them about every 3-4 days depending on how hot it's been.

Thanks for response, Weluvroses. We did have 2 weeks of almost non-stop rain, and I checked the soil...it was still wet.

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Leaf2
May 22, 2020 2:55 PM CST
jerijen said:Your area is getting rain every day? Am I right?

If that is the case, your rose might have a drainage problem. They "like" to get a good watering, and then be allowed to dry out a little before the next watering.

In continued days of rain, if the drainage is not wonderful, water can build up. If it's sitting in standing water, your rose could actually be drowning.


Hi jerijen, you are right, it rained non-stop here for some time. Something to consider...thanks much!

Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
May 22, 2020 6:30 PM CST
Leaf, there is only one place on our property where we found poor drainage. Dug the hole. Filled it with water. It just SAT. Took hours to disappear.

We had to make a French Drain. Dug down another 15 inches or so, and filled that extra hole with gravel. Planted on top of that, the rose succeeded, because the water had somewhere to go.
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Leaf2
May 22, 2020 8:01 PM CST
jerijen said:Leaf, there is only one place on our property where we found poor drainage. Dug the hole. Filled it with water. It just SAT. Took hours to disappear.

We had to make a French Drain. Dug down another 15 inches or so, and filled that extra hole with gravel. Planted on top of that, the rose succeeded, because the water had somewhere to go.


Thanks for the tip!
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
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seilMI
May 22, 2020 8:22 PM CST
When ever you plant a new rose in a new spot you should do a drainage check. Dig the hole for your rose then fill it with water and walk away. Come back about an hour later and check it. If the hole is mostly drained and empty your OK. If the hole is still nearly full of water you need to go deeper and repeat the test or do what Jeri suggested with the gravel.
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Leaf2
May 22, 2020 8:58 PM CST
seilMI said:When ever you plant a new rose in a new spot you should do a drainage check. Dig the hole for your rose then fill it with water and walk away. Come back about an hour later and check it. If the hole is mostly drained and empty your OK. If the hole is still nearly full of water you need to go deeper and repeat the test or do what Jeri suggested with the gravel.

Excelent ideea, thanks seiIMI.

Name: Trella
Arkansas (Zone 8a)
Trella
May 31, 2020 3:32 PM CST
If your roses have already been in the ground a few months before your realize you have poor drainage, is it safe to dig them up and do the gravel thing?
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
May 31, 2020 5:24 PM CST
It's a choice between digging it up or having it die from root rot. Yes, digging it up will probably cause some root damage and transplant shock but if you don't the rose will slowly die from loss of the drowning root ball.
Name: Trella
Arkansas (Zone 8a)
Trella
Jun 4, 2020 1:28 PM CST
What a choice, though! Do you know of any other possible solutions?
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Jun 4, 2020 3:47 PM CST
Build a french drain along the rose bed.
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