Irises forum→Please advise: NOID vs Goldkist

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Name: Laurie
southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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lauriemorningglory
May 24, 2020 8:14 PM CST
One thing I've learned from this group is properly identifying NOIDs. And not to give away/trade noids with a tentative name.

I had a bloom today of an iris I bought from our local iris club---it was supposed to be "Skating Party." It looks like "Goldkist," which I have.

My question is: are there other irises that look like Goldkist that I should compare it to?

Below are my pictures of Goldkist and the NOID. It sure compares well. If you all think that's what it is, I'll go with it. This is my first attempt to properly identify a NOID. Any advice is welcome! Thank you, everyone!

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And below is the NOID blooming in the garden. My Goldkist is blooming, too:

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Name: Debra
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lovemyhouse
May 24, 2020 8:28 PM CST
Laurie, I like the way you broke down the individual components. The two Irises look exactly alike to me. I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Joshua
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Australis
May 24, 2020 8:28 PM CST

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lauriemorningglory said:Not sure how to rotate in post.


Unfortunately you cannot rotate a photo in a post, but as an admin I can rotate it manually. It generally takes a day or so for the change to become visible, though, due to the way the images are cached.

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Name: Laurie
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lauriemorningglory
May 24, 2020 8:47 PM CST
Debra, thank you!
Joshua, good to know about rotating. I see it is correct when expanded.
Name: Robin
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Totally_Amazing
May 24, 2020 8:48 PM CST
Your NoID looks like Sunkist to me too Thumbs up
Name: Joshua
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May 24, 2020 8:52 PM CST

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lauriemorningglory said:Debra, thank you!
Joshua, good to know about rotating. I see it is correct when expanded.


In that case you must not have seen the image before I rotated it; in my case, it is still showing the original orientation (and will do so for a while until the server-side cache clears).
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iciris
May 24, 2020 10:16 PM CST
Awesome pictures showing any possible differences. I think they are the same Iris too.
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Name: Laurie
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lauriemorningglory
May 24, 2020 10:31 PM CST
Thank you, Robin and Barbara!
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UndertheSun
May 24, 2020 11:32 PM CST
Great bloom break down photos! Thumbs up I've done that before, but have never included notes. So when I go back, I often forget which was which. *Blush*

I agree with the others, it looks like Goldkist to me.
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DaveinPA
May 25, 2020 9:01 AM CST
Looks like it with your excellent comparison of the components. Blooms at same time also. Do they have other growth characteristics that are the same-height, number of buds on stem, size of foliage, purple markings on base foliage or spathes, etc. If so then declare a winner and tell the source in the iris club it was mis-id'd and ask for Skating Party.
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Lestv
May 25, 2020 9:18 AM CST
I think it is Goldkist as well.

Thanks for being so very thorough in your comparison! Side by side comparisons really are the best way to determine an identity. I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Laurie
southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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lauriemorningglory
May 25, 2020 10:21 AM CST
I went out (in the rain) and checked some additional characteristics:

No purple based foliage on either. No purple spathes. Heights and bud counts appear to be about the same (although I understand a first year bloom may be very short and with fewer buds).

Unfortunately I don't know who provided "Skating Party" at the sale. Unless the club kept track of that info.

Thank you all for your help! Smiling

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