Roses forum→Purple or lavender thornless climber

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Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Hiyamakki
May 28, 2020 8:14 PM CST
Any suggestions? Leaning towards Reine ses Violettes. I love a full rose!
Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Hiyamakki
May 29, 2020 7:23 AM CST
For a second purple climber (which doesn't have to be thornless) I'm torn between Aunt Margy's Rose and Lavender Crush. Leaning towards the former as it's from Burlington where I'm getting some others. LC is from Angel Gardens. Ordering drom several places can have shipping really add up. Any advice or alternate suggestions?

For nonclimbers (have room for 2, 3 if they are smaller bushes) my short list is:
Double feature
Dr. John Dickman
Silver cloud
Paradise
Lavender pinocchio
lavender delight
Ocean in Motion
Petit Prince
Sweet Arlene
Tuscany superb (is it cupped?)
Purple heart

As an aside, does anyone have Forestville? No pics on helpmefind. I'm half tempted to order it out of curiosity. I definitely would if I had more space. Love a mystery!
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
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vaporvac
May 29, 2020 1:18 PM CST
I think AM'sR would look lovely with RdV and offer a better contrast. I have LC and it's a slow grower that gets some die-back here and BS. I like it for the spot it's in, but don't consider it a climber here. I might look at Quicksilver instead. Purple Skyliner is a small-flowered charmer to also consider. Still I'd order them all I could from Burling to fill up a box! :-)
Tuscany, Italy
bart2018
May 29, 2020 2:39 PM CST
Be still my beating heart-lavender/mauve/violet/"purple" roses are my sweet spot. Purple Skyliner is an absolute favourite. RdViolettes is maybe THE most beautiful rose in the world,IMO. I pine for Quicksilver ,Aunt Margy's, Lavender Crush...none of which are available here in Europe. I'll have to look up the others you mention...
Now, let me explain: I put "purple" in quotes because you've gotta be careful-many times a rose is described as purple, when in reality it's just a banal reddish colour. Purple Skyliner is adorable-I hunt around in my mind for critiques I could make of this rose ,and there are some,but in my garden, my situation, the conditions are extremely tough,and this rose does very well even for me. It's quite vigorous,and does establish even in a difficult condition if given time,and doesn't demand much attention. It does have to be supported in order to encourage it to climb,at least for me.It would probably do even better in a "normal" garden.
RdV is stupendous, but does need good soil and nutrition; I have not yet succeeded in growing this rose really well, but the flowers are so breath-taking , and I am working on it. Again, I want to remind you, I have extremely tough conditions. For pure beauty of the individual flowers, I'd vote RdV. For the cascade of flowers that fall down like the long hair of Melisande or Rapunzel,Purple Skyliner is the one.
Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Hiyamakki
May 30, 2020 4:15 PM CST
Okay Bart, you've sold me on RDV although you paint quite the picture of Purple skyliner. Thornless is a must since my AC unit is on the other side of the fence where I'm planning to put the climber.

I think I will go with Aunt Margy for the other climber. It's one at each end of a screened in porch with maybe 3 plants in the middle? About an 18 foot stretch. I definitely intend to fill a box at Burlington Vaporvac. The issue is narrowing it down to 8!

So far I've committed to
Sheila MacQueen
Cl. Earthquake (if instock)
RVG
Aunt Marge
Crepescule
Chipmunk (if in stock)

I think I'm going to get Sweet Arlene. I want a lavender. I'd like a deep purple, maybe a two tone. I really like Purple Heart but can't find a place carrying it. Cupped roses and fully double (like Jude the Obscure) are my favourite.

I have to decide on one from
Dr. John Dickman
Paradise
Double Feature
For the two tone.

I'm thinking maybe Intrigue for a deep purple?

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Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Hiyamakki
May 31, 2020 12:01 PM CST
Looks like Northland Rosarium will have Purple Heart in the fall!

Now I just have to pick a two tone and a deep purple. Any recommendations?
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
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vaporvac
May 31, 2020 2:50 PM CST
Do these also need to be thornless? What height do they need to be? Climbers?
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Hiyamakki
May 31, 2020 2:59 PM CST
These don't have to be thornless but I'd like to keep them to 4 feet max so they don't block too much light or air flow into the screened in porch.
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vaporvac
May 31, 2020 3:46 PM CST
Freedom Gardens sells a charmer calle Greetings. I have one coming. He also has a wonderful lavender called Black Country Pride. Don't forget The Prince and Cardinal Hume.
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Hiyamakki
May 31, 2020 4:30 PM CST
The Prince looks beautiful but is it more red than purple? Greetings is too single for me and it looks like Cardinal Hume will grow too large.

After much dithering I think I'm going with Double Feature for the two tone. There's no info on plant size on helpmefind though. I'm going to email Burling and ask if she knows.
Tuscany, Italy
bart2018
Jun 1, 2020 3:20 AM CST
Vaporvac, do you know anything about Black Country Pride? I have a young plant in a pot ,which I got from a German nursery,where it was sold as a shrub,not as a climber. On HMF all they say is that it is "tall",which is pretty vague, and doesn't help me much to decide where to place it in my garden! Do you think of this rose as a climber?
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
Jun 1, 2020 9:41 AM CST
I'm growing RDV for the first time this year. Looking forward to it blooming eventually. I have paradise. And its 2nd year. And is very big. Idk why it got so big. But its huge. Almost 5.5 feet tall. And 4ft wide. And it has pretty light pinkish blooms with darker tips. Mine in zone 6a-b ish arent lavender at all.

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SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
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vaporvac
Jun 1, 2020 4:16 PM CST
Bart, I have BCP on order so can not personally advise. I would suggest emailing Peter at FreedomGardens and asking him. Although he gardens in Z5, his vast knowledge may help. He is a wonderful and helpful man so don't hesitate. If he doesn't know he may be able to put you in touch with someone who does. Hope that helps.
Tuscany, Italy
bart2018
Jun 3, 2020 3:08 AM CST
Thanks, vaporvac!
Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Hiyamakki
Jun 8, 2020 10:00 PM CST
Isn't this lovely? Not available stateside but so gorgeous. Ombree Parfait
https://www.helpmefind.com/ros...

This one too, Lilac Bouquet . And I don't even like singles usually!
https://www.helpmefind.com/gar...
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
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seilMI
Jun 10, 2020 6:12 PM CST
I'm in zone 6 and my RdV got to about 10 feet tall. However two polar vortex winters took her down to about 3 feet now. I'm hoping she will be huge again but it will take time.

She is gorgeous though and total thornless for me.

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And she smells like Heaven!
Tuscany, Italy
bart2018
Jun 12, 2020 4:18 AM CST
OMG, Seil!!! I hope one day mine gets to be like yours! How is yours for shade tolerance?

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