Roses forum: Who Am I?? NOT Jens Munk

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Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
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Joannabanana
Oct 3, 2012 7:57 AM CST
I have been told that one of my roses is mislabelled. I hope folks here can help me out. I bought it and planted it in 2005 or 6. It is winter hardy here (Zone 3) with very little die back. 5 feet x 5 feet. Has thorns, very small hips and light to no scent. Big flush of blooms in early summer. Continues with only a few blooms until fall frost.
Here's some pictures to help solve the puzzle.


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Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Oct 3, 2012 9:15 AM CST
Maybe Do Si Do? Hermina? I'm thinking one of the Buck's roses as they're extremely winter hardy, or the Canadian series.. perhaps Felix Leclerc? John Cabot? Leaning more towards John...
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Name: Caroline Scott
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CarolineScott
Oct 3, 2012 10:02 AM CST
Could it be "Nearly Wild" ?
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Oct 3, 2012 1:19 PM CST

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I don't think any of the Buck roses have 9 leaflets. In general, the foliage is canceling out all of my guesses. The color is more John Cabot than Jens Munk, but the foliage is all wrong for John Cabot.

Nearly Wild blooms have only 5 petals.
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
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Steve812
Oct 3, 2012 3:23 PM CST
It really doesn't look like a rugosa. And it does have a lot of the John Davis look without the double flowers. How many guesses do we get? Pink Masquerade? Prairie Charm? Simon Fraser?.

I've not grown any of these roses; but I'm glad I tried this exercise because I really like Simon Fraser. Fodder for my guesses provided by HMF search engine. I hope they seem reasonable.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Oct 3, 2012 3:45 PM CST

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You're so good at this, Steve. These are good guesses, but the only color match is Pink Masquerade.
Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
Oct 3, 2012 3:56 PM CST
And now we have the rest of the story.....Pink Masquerade is caught passing herself off as Jens Munk. What a tangled web we weave. But she's still a rose, by any name. Rolling my eyes. Hilarious!
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Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
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Steve812
Oct 3, 2012 3:56 PM CST
Thank you, Zuzu.
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
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Steve812
Oct 3, 2012 3:59 PM CST
And for all you unmarried roses out there, Pink Masquerade is still single. Rolling my eyes.
Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
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Joannabanana
Oct 4, 2012 7:53 AM CST
I've been looking thru some books. Does anyone think William Baffin as a possibility?
Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
Oct 4, 2012 7:55 AM CST
Good one, Steve! Rolling on the floor laughing Whistling
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Oct 4, 2012 9:05 AM CST
None of the photos I saw of William Baffin on HMF had foliage that looked like your rose...
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Name: Caroline Scott
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CarolineScott
Oct 4, 2012 9:12 AM CST
The later photos fit with William Baffin which is sold here in every garden center.
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
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Steve812
Oct 4, 2012 12:08 PM CST
I don't see anything that would rule out William Baffin. The subject rose has 16 petals vs Baffin's 20: close. And this photo shows foliage that looks pretty similar.

Given what I can see in pictures at HMF and here I am still inclined to think of Pink Masquerade as a slightly better fit. But the big problem is that Pink Masquerade is no longer in distribution and William Baffin is in "every garden center."
Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Oct 4, 2012 1:27 PM CST
Do either of the have foliage with nine leaflets? That seemed to me to be the hardest match.
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Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
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Joannabanana
Oct 4, 2012 3:18 PM CST
Thanks for all the suggestions!

I plant that rose in 2005, so about 7 years ago.
Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
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Joannabanana
Jan 22, 2013 8:16 AM CST
The Calgary Rose Society folks have identified this rose as William Baffin
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Skiekitty
Jan 22, 2013 9:53 AM CST
Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! At least you know who it is now!
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Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Canadian Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Roses
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Annuals Container Gardener Vegetable Grower Winter Sowing Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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Joannabanana
Jan 22, 2013 10:11 AM CST
Yes, indeed.

Zuzu, I think some of my photos that were put in the database were put in as Jens Munk. How do we fix that?
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jan 22, 2013 12:08 PM CST

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I moved them to the William Baffin entry, Joanne. The folks in Calgary are right: They look exactly like Sue's photos of William Baffin.

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