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Name: Ed
South Alabama (Zone 8b)
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Intheswamp
Jun 3, 2020 8:58 AM CST
What I need to do is rent out my garden to some of Bayer to trial different vegetables for disease resistance. Sad I think everything that I plant eventually shows disease...except maybe the pepper plants. Shrug!

The Zipper Cream cow peas that I planted are showing signs of some type of disease. Blight? Pull the plants and hope for the best for the rest of the crop? Treat with ____? Shrug!

Any thoughts about this is appreciated. Thanks!
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Name: Dillard Haley
Augusta Georgia (Zone 8a)
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farmerdill
Jun 3, 2020 10:15 AM CST
Never had that problem with cowpeas, Ed. Maybe because I work clean. All plant debris is turned under immediately after harvest. https://www.gardeningknowhow.c...
Name: Ed
South Alabama (Zone 8b)
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Intheswamp
Jun 3, 2020 10:27 AM CST
Hmm, could be what you're saying about "working clean". The garden had laid by for a year so naturally when I tilled it earlier this year it had vegetation on it...it was turned under but definitely I would say recently. It is interesting how the affected area is at the end of the row where the rain gaunge is and close to that clump of (soon to be gone) dog fennel. No meaning to that, just an observation. Thinking

I think I'll go ahead and pull those yellowing plants and hope it doesn't spread fast into the rest of the crop.

With the trouble that I had getting a stand of these up this year I've decided to only use treated seed next year, not to plant early, and double the amount that I plant. I wonder if I'll stick to that...??? *Blush*
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Name: Don
south-central alabama (Zone 8a)
olhippie
Jun 4, 2020 3:14 AM CST
I do pretty much same as farmerdill. When they thru producing, I bush hog them and till. Aphids are bad on peas every year.
Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
Jun 4, 2020 6:34 AM CST
Aphids already in my peas. Grumbling
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Name: Don
south-central alabama (Zone 8a)
olhippie
Jun 4, 2020 10:34 AM CST
I tried the soapy water. That didn't work. Used neem oil last 2-3 years. That helped very little if any. Sure didn't get rid of them. Seems most folks do good using both. Maybe I need to mix it stronger. I must be doing something wrong. Up until these last 10 years or so, I didn't spray anything. Not that way now.
Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
Jun 4, 2020 3:53 PM CST
Yeah, it seems everything that I'm planting something is happening to them. The only things so far that aren't hit by something, or bordering on being hit are my peppers and watermelons.
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Name: Don
south-central alabama (Zone 8a)
olhippie
Jun 4, 2020 6:15 PM CST
Well, my peppers aren't looking good. And you already saw what's happening to my watermelons. They already eat some to the ground.
Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
Jun 4, 2020 7:10 PM CST
Ain't it fun!!! Rolling my eyes.

But we keep on tryin'!!!!! Smiling Thumbs up
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Name: Don
south-central alabama (Zone 8a)
olhippie
Jun 4, 2020 8:16 PM CST
Yep, lotsa fun. And for some reason day before yesterday, I didn't wear my hat most of the day. Well guess what.
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ElPolloDiablo
Jun 5, 2020 5:09 AM CST
Picture #3 and #4 are almost textbook examples of Ascochyta Disease.
It's usually brought about by infected propagation material, in peas' cases this usually means the seeds themselves. So if you are a seed saver you should remember not to harvest seeds from affected plants and consider rebuilding your seeds stocks. If you bought seedlings or seeds never buy again from that supplier.
Ascochyta is usually "triggered" by high moisture, so consider shifting your peas to a drier area of the vegetable patch next year. Right now you could try using a fungicide like Syngenta Bravo 500.
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Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
Jun 5, 2020 12:20 PM CST
olhippie said:Yep, lotsa fun. And for some reason day before yesterday, I didn't wear my hat most of the day. Well guess what.

Ooooh...that smarts!!!! D'Oh!
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Name: Ed
South Alabama (Zone 8b)
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Intheswamp
Jun 5, 2020 12:43 PM CST
ElPolloDiablo said:Picture #3 and #4 are almost textbook examples of Ascochyta Disease.
It's usually brought about by infected propagation material, in peas' cases this usually means the seeds themselves. So if you are a seed saver you should remember not to harvest seeds from affected plants and consider rebuilding your seeds stocks. If you bought seedlings or seeds never buy again from that supplier.
Ascochyta is usually "triggered" by high moisture, so consider shifting your peas to a drier area of the vegetable patch next year. Right now you could try using a fungicide like Syngenta Bravo 500.


Thanks for the feedback, EPD. There was three different sources of seeds due to replanting skips this year. This year's first planting was done with Southern Exposure Seed Exchange seeds, 2nd skip-planting was with seed from the local farrmer's co-op, and the last smaller skip-planting from some saved seeds grown from a previous planting of SESE peas. So kind of hard to say which is which. But, I have been very under-impressed with the last two seasons of production from SESE seeds...I had already sworn off buying any more seed from them. The first year planting their seeds resulted in a good crop...but since then it's been downhill. Thumbs down .

The garden is only about 60'x25' in size and fairly level, though this area would be the more dry spot, if there is one. The garden is sandy and drains (too) well.

I'm thinking I'll be buying some treated seed from the co-op or elsewhere from now on.
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Name: Don
south-central alabama (Zone 8a)
olhippie
Jun 5, 2020 6:55 PM CST
Ed, I used to buy most all my seed from the co-op. The one closest to you. Not the one about 20 miles west of you. No problems I know of. But don't know about now because I haven't had to buy much seed lately.
Name: Don
south-central alabama (Zone 8a)
olhippie
Jun 5, 2020 6:59 PM CST
When we mentioned aphids earlier, has anyone used neem oil on them. Like I said, I used it some last couple years on peas, but just didn't get rid of them. I mixed it at max strength. I wonder if I may need to spray it more often. I don't like spraying anything but I got To these days.
Name: Ed
South Alabama (Zone 8b)
Region: Alabama Birds Beekeeper Bee Lover Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
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Intheswamp
Jun 6, 2020 7:55 AM CST
olhippie said:Ed, I used to buy most all my seed from the co-op. The one closest to you. Not the one about 20 miles west of you. No problems I know of. But don't know about now because I haven't had to buy much seed lately.


Yeah, next year I'll definitely use a different seed source for the peas. This year's crop seems to have struggled since the first seed pea was planted. Hopefully we'll get enough to put a few quarts up and for fresh eating.

Aphids... Grumbling I've got to do something. I guess I'll try some soapy water on them for now...that's all I got on
hand. Did you get that rain last night? I'm showing we got right around .75". That should've knocked some of the aphids down...of course, the two billion trillion ants that are there will have them back on the plants in no time.... D'Oh!
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