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Name: Kevin Langley
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AmberLeaf
Jun 3, 2020 2:08 PM CST
I'm planing on having some plants in my living room, however it is very dark, I get hardly any natural light in there. I've been researching.

5000 lumens should be just about ok for house plants, I understand that I'd need to select the right plants to suit the lighting conditions, I have ordered a couple 100watt L.E.D floodlights one warm white to provide the red spectrum and the other in cool white for green growth.

My living room used to get sunlight and I once had an oak tree growing in there in a pot which I've moved outside and will become a bonsai. There are several trees that have been growing right outside the living room and have grown so big that they now block out every bit of sunlight from my living room, there isn't anything I can do about it as trees here in the UK are protected so I'm now looking at a lighting option for my living room that could sustain some house plants and maybe even a small 5 foot tree.
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WillC
Jun 3, 2020 3:04 PM CST
Some "trees" or plants require much more light than others. What tree species are you considering?
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Name: Kevin Langley
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AmberLeaf
Jun 3, 2020 3:45 PM CST
I'm not quite sure yet, preferably plants/small trees that don't require direct sunlight and maybe some hanging baskets with some spider plants or some other sort of hanging plants.

All my willow cuttings I took have all rooted so I'm currently using some of those to experiment with to see how well they do indoors under low light conditions at the back of my kitchen where there is some sunlight but not a whole lot and they seem to be doing ok so far, but only time will tell.

Most of what I like requires full sun and thats 10,000 lumens per square foot or close to it and 5000 lumens on a cloudy overcast day which is a lot more practical.

I'd like something that has a scent to it and plants that fruit and I like bonsai trees. Any suggestions on any other plants that require low light and something that looks nice and inviting in a living room would be an option for me to consider as well.



Name: Will Creed
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WillC
Jun 4, 2020 8:15 AM CST
Because your plants will be staying indoors year-round, only tropical and some semi-tropical plant species will survive. Plants such as oak and willow require cold winter temps that don't occur indoors. That also applies to bonsais, some of which are tropical and will do fine while others are not and will not survive warm winter temps indoors.

There are a variety of tropical indoor plants that do well in low light. They include Pothos, Aglaonema, Aspidistra, ZZ Plant, Dracaena species, Snake Plants, Peace Lilies, Lucky Bamboo, Philodendron species, and Parlor Palm. There are many other plants you could use indoors but may require more light than you have available.

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Jun 4, 2020 1:36 PM CST
I grow these plants all year indoors under fluorescent shop lights. They don't get very hot like theT5s do.. If you use a lot of watts the temps go up, but my highest temp is 80 degrees.
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Name: sumire
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sumire
Jun 4, 2020 1:49 PM CST
I have noticed that my ficus benjamina is pretty flexible. And I have had good luck with many of the ferns in lower light (maidenhair, squirrel foot, staghorn). Ferns like a certain amount of humidity though, so mine are growing in water trays.

My spiderplant, coleus, johnny jump ups (those little violets) and impatiens are all doing really well under artificial lights. (The spiderplant pot is 3 feet in diameter, so I just threw random handfuls of seeds in.)

I would agree with WillC, try tropicals to avoid the dormancy problem. Or, research to see what cares if it goes into dormancy.
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Name: Kevin Langley
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AmberLeaf
Jun 4, 2020 3:58 PM CST
Some of those plants look would look quit good particularly the Philodendron plant as it looks very jungle like with nice big leafs, I also have high ceilings where I'd be hanging the lights from. Pothos, ZZ plant, Dracaena, peace lilies, lucky bamboo are on my list. I am looking to increase my lighting but figuring out the safest and efficient way of doing things as lights can run pretty hot.

I have an old brass hanging light in my living room which can take up to 5 bulbs and I'm thinking about getting the brightest L.E.D corn bulbs I can find and I'll be making a reflector with some foil to minimize any wasted light so I should have a good amount of lumens to work with and I'm also thinking about growing a couple more mango tree's and some date palms and I'll be using some aditional grow lights for those two plants if necessary which would look nice with the other indoor plants mentioned above.

The bonsai trees like the willows and oaks I'll just leave those outside but I'm thinking about doing a plum tree for indoors. I have a feeling a plum tree would be ok indoors.
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Jun 5, 2020 12:11 AM CST
Amberleaf, can you post a photo so we can see what you are taking about.
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Name: Will Creed
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WillC
Jun 5, 2020 7:57 AM CST
Plum trees do not do well indoors.
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Name: Kevin Langley
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AmberLeaf
Jun 6, 2020 2:56 PM CST
I've been having a look online reading up on various things about growing plants indoors and even seeing if there are any indoor jungles that exist but the only pictures I can find are those of New York's underground gardens.

I've been calculating L.E.D bulbs in watts to lumens and I could possibly do 58000 lumens of light which may sound a bit overkill and wont be easy on the eye but I have some good sun glasses Thumbs up Even if the lighting I plan on getting is less than whats advertised which is often the case I'd still have reasonable lighting so lets say 30000 lumens.

I will have to conduct some experiments for a while before I get things spot on, or at least satisfactory.

I've also been looking at other plants which maybe suitable for indoors. I'm very into my trees such as various palms and also citrus trees. I know a few people here in London who have been growing Lemon trees indoors from store bought fruit and always do quite well next to a window with plenty of natural light. When I grew my Lemon tree, I started it off indoors then moved it outside and its been doing pretty good even during winter but I don't want to risk anything happening to my lemon tree by moving it indoors so I will grow some more from scratch. There is also the Meyer Lemon tree which looks good and fruits.

I've read that common fig trees do well indoors, there are a lot of fig trees around my area so perhaps I could do some cuttings from some and try those out.

Other plants I've looked at are:
Olive tree.
Bird of paradise.
Corn Tree.
Ficus benjamina.
Fatsia Japonica.
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Name: Will Creed
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Jun 6, 2020 5:10 PM CST
Fruit-bearing Figs (Ficus carica) will not do well indoors. However, there are other Ficus species that make good indoor plants. They include Ficus lyrata, Ficus elastica, and Ficus benjamina.

On your list, all of them are good indoors except for Olive.
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Name: Kevin Langley
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AmberLeaf
Jun 14, 2020 8:20 AM CST
So I went out today to look for some low light indoor plants and here is what I got today...

Snake plant - very good for low light conditions.

A couple of Peace lily plants, they were super cheap so got two for now to see how they do.

I also bought a Calamondin orange tree, the guy in the store told me its a low light plant but from what I've read it prefers a sunny room or window so this can go in the kitchen window which is south facing.

On my travels I spotted what looked like a ZZ Plant growing outside, it looked like a big bush so I took the liberty of taking a few cuttings from it, maybe somebody can confirm that its is a ZZ Plant?

I'm also on the hunt for some Pothos and Philodendron plants for my indoor hanging baskets.





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Name: Will Creed
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WillC
Jun 14, 2020 8:43 AM CST
All Citrus trees require strong direct indoor sunlight all day long. If you don't have that, return it and get your money back or a replacement.

That does not look like a ZZ Plant to me. The leaves are too long and narrow. Perhaps someone else can ID it for you.
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Name: Kevin Langley
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AmberLeaf
Jun 14, 2020 9:41 AM CST
WillC said:All Citrus trees require strong direct indoor sunlight all day long. If you don't have that, return it and get your money back or a replacement.

That does not look like a ZZ Plant to me. The leaves are too long and narrow. Perhaps someone else can ID it for you.


No worries I expect I'll come across a ZZ Plant at some stage.

Just a question about peace lilies, can they be placed in an aquarium or is that for aquatic species?
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Jun 14, 2020 9:53 AM CST
I have not grown Peace Lilies in an aquarium, but I know that others have done so successfully.
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Name: Kevin Langley
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AmberLeaf
Jun 16, 2020 10:35 AM CST
I ordered some seeds today...
I got some catnip seeds, Peppermint and Spearmint seeds and some Sage seeds to grow in some window boxes which I will put on the inside part of the window its shaded for the most part but there is some good natural light there. I've read that peppermint does ok indoors and hoping those will give me a nice natural scent.

I'm not having the best of luck with the indoor plants that I got so far due to root rot, peace lilies are turning out to be a disaster due to loss of roots and the snake plant also has some root rot but its not as bad but if the worst happens to the snake plant, the snake plants leafs are always salvageable I just got to wait and see.

I'll be ordering some peace lily seeds at some point today, its probably best to grow those from seed rather than having to deal with root rot from plants that have been sitting in a shop for a long time without any light.

I'm still unable to find any pothos plants for my indoor hanging baskets so I will take some ivy cuttings tomorrow as ivy is plentiful around my area which can also be grown indoors, that way I can then see how things go with the ivy in terms of indoor lighting and if thats successful then there is a good chance pothos will do just as well when I manage to get some.
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Name: Will Creed
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Jun 16, 2020 10:36 AM CST
What kind of Ivy?
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Name: Kevin Langley
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AmberLeaf
Jun 16, 2020 11:06 AM CST
WillC said:What kind of Ivy?


I'm not sure of the names of the species but there are quite a few different kinds everywhere, I'm going to take cuttings from different types. They are mostly dark green or the two tone white and green. I've taken a screen shot of what they look like.


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Name: Kevin Langley
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AmberLeaf
Jun 19, 2020 4:24 AM CST
Here are some spider plants I rescued from my mothers garden, she used to have a huge spider plant which was just getting to large for the area she had it in and it was transplanted outside and survived many winters and even flowered during winter times and just continued to keep growing for the next 8 years but last year it started to decline quite badly because the ground was very wet and slowly became a heap of dead spider plants with these little live bits that remained so I dug them out of the ground and potted them up to take home with me. They are very weak at the moment but I know these plants are pretty resilient so I'll have a few more indoor plants to add to my collection.


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Name: Kevin Langley
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AmberLeaf
Jun 19, 2020 4:56 AM CST
Here are my Ivy cuttings...


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