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Name: Nancy
Downers Grove, IL (Zone 5b)
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nancyindg
Jun 3, 2020 5:29 PM CST
Quick question: Brother TZe tape for the P-touch label makers very pricey, even if I buy the genuine tape on eBay. Just as I buy compatible ink for my printer I can buy much, much less expensive compatible tape for the Brother label maker. Does anyone have experience with non OEM tape? I'm a bit concerned that off-brand tapes may not actually be fade resisitant or otherwise hold up to various weather conditions and I'd hate to be stint on the price only to get kicked in the butt in a couple of years with illegible labels. BTW, the replacement tape is the same length and width as the OEM. One brand is Fimax, available on Amazon and eBay. Thanks.








Name: Heidi
CT (Zone 5b)
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mom2cjemma
Jun 3, 2020 6:32 PM CST
I have used several after market products and so far I have had no problems with fading or lack of sticking.
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Name: Nancy
Downers Grove, IL (Zone 5b)
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nancyindg
Jun 3, 2020 8:26 PM CST
Thanks, Heidi. That's encouraging.
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Jun 3, 2020 9:03 PM CST
mom2cjemma said:I have used several after market products and so far I have had no problems with fading or lack of sticking.


Heidi, how long have they been in place? Thanks

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Name: Heidi
CT (Zone 5b)
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mom2cjemma
Jun 4, 2020 5:27 AM CST
crawgarden said:

Heidi, how long have they been in place? Thanks



I started using the off brand about 18 months ago, so some have gone through 2 winters now.

I will add as a caveat, mine are attached to plastic knives and so the adhesive is back to back and they are down low near the ground, so they don't get the major exposure to sun.

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Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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touchofsky
Jun 4, 2020 6:42 AM CST
I just recently bought a Brother P-touch machine, and after using the original sample cartrige, I bought an after market brand, but the labels have only been in place for a short period of time, so I cannot comment on fading. They did stick well, though, and no problem in the machine. My labels are for seedlings, so I only need a few years from them. To be safe, I do make maps of the seedling beds.
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 4, 2020 11:11 AM CST
I keep waiting for someone who has used the aftermarket tape for lat least 5 years to reply, but maybe the aftermarket tape has not been out that long?
Name: Mary Anne Jay
Wentworth, NS, Canada (Zone 4a)
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Raven
Jun 4, 2020 4:01 PM CST
This is my third year using after market tape purchased on Amazon in my P touch machine. My purchase included 5 different color tapes. One was not usable--would not feed--but the other ones have been fine. There is much more tape and it is every bit as good as the brand name tape. I use metal markers and it has stuck through the two winters of snow, ice and cold temps. There is no fading. I also use rechargeable batteries which I would also recommend.

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marysp
Jun 16, 2020 8:48 PM CST
I finally have enough irises to need plant markers. My Christmas gift to myself was some Kincaid Stainless Steel posts. Expensive but totally awesome. Now, I need to get a great label maker. It looks like folks favor the Brother P touch machine. Is there a particular model that works the best? Many thanks!
Name: Heidi
CT (Zone 5b)
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mom2cjemma
Jun 18, 2020 5:38 PM CST
I have a wireless one through Brother that I use an app on my I-pad. This particular one is the PT-P300BT.

I like having the option to use many different fonts and can design them from the ipad or iphone.
Heidi

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marysp
Jun 20, 2020 1:00 PM CST
After my last post, I spent 2 or 3 hours researching Brother's label makers. I purchased the PTD600VP, which has its own keyboard, cable to connect to a PC or MAC, a transformer (but the label maker can be battery operated), and a screen that displays the entire label in color. It can handle 1" tapes, which will fit my plant markers. "VP" includes a very sturdy case with compartments for all of the components. It's $100 on Amazon, which was the best price for this model.

I also spent more time checking out comparable tape. I was nervous about ordering comparable tapes on Amazon; the very low prices seemed too good to be true. But LD Products and PtouchDirect had good prices for comparables.

I have ordered a couple hundred printer cartridges from LD Products . . .great ink for printing high quality photos. Also, an important element is their ink is made in the US. So I assume their other products are, also, probably good, too.

I discovered Brother's TZE-S251 1-inch tape. Cheapest price is $16.50 on Amazon. It is "super strength" both in adhesion and fade resistant.

I want high quality since I will also be making labels for a public garden. In addition, I live in the Phoenix area where obviously has intense sun and high temps which wears on everything "under the sun."

Everyone, good health to you and your family and friends!
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Jun 20, 2020 8:18 PM CST
The TZE tape holds up great!
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marysp
Jun 29, 2020 9:40 PM CST
I am very happy with my newly purchased Brothers PTD600VP on Amazon. The carrying case is very sturdy with the compartments' making for easy, organized storage. It includes the cable to connect the label maker to my laptop as well as a transformer to plug in the label maker which can also operate off of batteries. It was so easy and quick to design labels with the connection to my laptop. A friend of mine has her Brother model connected to an Excel spreadsheet with each variety's name, hybridizer, etc. listed and transfers this info onto the label.
Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

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frankrichards16
Jun 30, 2020 3:30 PM CST
I purchased some Brother OEM tape in 2010. A couple of years later I had a problem with the thin clear layer of the tape separating from the white part. I was using the tape on 1/2 inch round fiberglass stakes. I called Brother customer service and I must admit I was not pleased with their service. They did end up sending me a replacement, but it was a hassle.

I have been using off brand tape since then without any issues.

I believe Brother has an industrial or outdoor tape that they sell as well. It is more expensive and I have never tried it.
Name: Pat
McLean, VA (Zone 6b)
daylilly99
Feb 28, 2021 1:26 PM CST
frankrichards16 said:I purchased some Brother OEM tape in 2010. A couple of years later I had a problem with the thin clear layer of the tape separating from the white part. I was using the tape on 1/2 inch round fiberglass stakes. I called Brother customer service and I must admit I was not pleased with their service. They did end up sending me a replacement, but it was a hassle.

I have been using off brand tape since then without any issues.

I believe Brother has an industrial or outdoor tape that they sell as well. It is more expensive and I have never tried it.


That's exactly the problem I've been experiencing with my labels too, Frank. Brother was not helpful and it was like they didn't acknowledge this problem even exists so it's nice to hear someone else experienced it too. I use galvanized labels from Everlast or stainless labels from Kiincaid and the problem is the same with both.

I think I'll try cheaper off brand tapes once I use up the current supply. The S series stronger tapes may be better but much too costly to start experimenting with.

I'm also going to start a thread to see which label maker other use.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Feb 28, 2021 4:25 PM CST
I am still using a grease pencil and just putting the name of the plant on the metal name plate, I would love to have a label maker that works through the computer, but I don't want the tapes separating. I would really love to have the hybridizer and the date registered on the label also. So I will continue to watch this closely and hope to get some good suggestions for a good off brand tape that lasts without separating.
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Feb 28, 2021 4:44 PM CST
Did you use the brother TZE tape, just curious?
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Name: Pat
McLean, VA (Zone 6b)
daylilly99
Mar 1, 2021 10:37 AM CST
crawgarden said:Did you use the brother TZE tape, just curious?


Yes - TZE not the one with an "S".
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Mar 1, 2021 1:19 PM CST
Interesting, mine are going on 6+ years and still look brand new, through heat, cold and snow.
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Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

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frankrichards16
Mar 1, 2021 4:52 PM CST
I think if you are using them on a flat surface, they are OK. I was using them on a curved surface which I think is a problem.

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