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sunapee, nh 03782
mattdillon1967
Jun 4, 2020 5:13 PM CST
can someone id this tree (some kind of birch?)
and the other is a sugar maple?
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Name: Big Bill
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BigBill
Jun 4, 2020 5:21 PM CST
Looks like a beech tree.
I think that the second one is a black oak.
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DaisyI
Jun 4, 2020 5:42 PM CST
Welcome!

Its really hard to ID plants from a picked leaf. Can you take photos of the leaves in the trees and the whole tree? Look for acorns or other fruits/nuts/flowers and photograph them also.
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sunapee, nh 03782
mattdillon1967
Jun 4, 2020 5:52 PM CST
yes i looked at beech and they have the same shape and hairs at the edge as well as the bark looks right ...thanks .... the other leaf is some kind of oak but the tree is a maple ( must have picked up the wrong leaf ... this is what i pulled from the tree...


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Name: Big Bill
Livonia, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Region: United States of America Critters Allowed Growing under artificial light Echinacea Hostas Region: Michigan
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BigBill
Jun 4, 2020 6:12 PM CST
Well now, that is Sugar Maple.

I should explain further. Sugar maples have 5 lobes which is a bit confusing looking at your image. Don't look for lobes, look at the veins in this leaf.
You have vein #1 running right down the center of the leaf from the petiole, stem, to the leaf apex. You have vein #2 and #3 running at roughly two o'clock and four o'clock in your image.
Veins #4 and 5 are the hardest to see. They are fainter but you can see them running at 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock in your image. Then the overall shape, principally the outline is kind of round making it a classic sugar maple!!
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sunapee, nh 03782
mattdillon1967
Jun 5, 2020 6:19 AM CST
trying to learn to ID trees in my area i am interested in syrup production but have always relied on others to identify the trees. i have made sugar maple, box elder, and white birch all have been fantastic. thanks for the help i appreciate it......
Name: Big Bill
Livonia, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Region: United States of America Critters Allowed Growing under artificial light Echinacea Hostas Region: Michigan
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BigBill
Jun 5, 2020 7:03 AM CST
I did that in college. 2 semesters of Dendrology, ie. The study of trees. Man those were demanding courses!
We had to learn 100 trees per semester, genus name, species name, what the species name meant and we had to learn to identify them with or without leaves. So we needed to recognize twigs and bark.
Each semester featured a one hour lecture and a three hour lab. Most labs were field trips to see these plants in person.
Then we had practical exams at the beginning of the lecture period. There would be materials placed out on a huge table, things like cones, leaves and twigs and we had to identify them as the class rotated around the table.


Now that sounds like a three credit or four credit course right??? WRONG!!!!
Only 1 credit each semester!!!
I got 2 'A' s but it was a huge amount of work and memorization!
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porkpal
Jun 5, 2020 7:44 AM CST
Sounds like a fun course!
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Name: Big Bill
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BigBill
Jun 5, 2020 11:12 AM CST
Oh pork, it was fabulous! I really got to see so much of Syracuse and the surrounding towns. But for one credit? Seriously?!
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