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Jun 4, 2020 5:13 PM CST
sunapee, nh 03782
can someone id this tree (some kind of birch?)
and the other is a sugar maple?
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Jun 4, 2020 5:21 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Looks like a beech tree.
I think that the second one is a black oak.
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Jun 4, 2020 5:42 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Its really hard to ID plants from a picked leaf. Can you take photos of the leaves in the trees and the whole tree? Look for acorns or other fruits/nuts/flowers and photograph them also.
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Jun 4, 2020 5:52 PM CST
sunapee, nh 03782
yes i looked at beech and they have the same shape and hairs at the edge as well as the bark looks right ...thanks .... the other leaf is some kind of oak but the tree is a maple ( must have picked up the wrong leaf ... this is what i pulled from the tree...


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Jun 4, 2020 6:12 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Well now, that is Sugar Maple.

I should explain further. Sugar maples have 5 lobes which is a bit confusing looking at your image. Don't look for lobes, look at the veins in this leaf.
You have vein #1 running right down the center of the leaf from the petiole, stem, to the leaf apex. You have vein #2 and #3 running at roughly two o'clock and four o'clock in your image.
Veins #4 and 5 are the hardest to see. They are fainter but you can see them running at 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock in your image. Then the overall shape, principally the outline is kind of round making it a classic sugar maple!!
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Jun 5, 2020 6:19 AM CST
sunapee, nh 03782
trying to learn to ID trees in my area i am interested in syrup production but have always relied on others to identify the trees. i have made sugar maple, box elder, and white birch all have been fantastic. thanks for the help i appreciate it......
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Jun 5, 2020 7:03 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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I did that in college. 2 semesters of Dendrology, ie. The study of trees. Man those were demanding courses!
We had to learn 100 trees per semester, genus name, species name, what the species name meant and we had to learn to identify them with or without leaves. So we needed to recognize twigs and bark.
Each semester featured a one hour lecture and a three hour lab. Most labs were field trips to see these plants in person.
Then we had practical exams at the beginning of the lecture period. There would be materials placed out on a huge table, things like cones, leaves and twigs and we had to identify them as the class rotated around the table.


Now that sounds like a three credit or four credit course right??? WRONG!!!!
Only 1 credit each semester!!!
I got 2 'A' s but it was a huge amount of work and memorization!
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Jun 5, 2020 7:44 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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Sounds like a fun course!
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Jun 5, 2020 11:12 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Oh pork, it was fabulous! I really got to see so much of Syracuse and the surrounding towns. But for one credit? Seriously?!
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