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Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
Region: Florida Tropicals Aroids
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Gina1960
Jun 5, 2020 6:50 AM CST
Anyone growing Amydriums? I love them. There are only 5 plants in the entire genus, which is a group of terrestrial liane aroids. Liane plants are tropical plants that have long stems and a scandent habit, rooted in soil as terrestrials, which climb and twine on other plants. Not limited to aroids they also include many vines and creepers (the Green Jade Vine, Strongolydon macrobotrys, is an example of a tropical liana as well)
The presence of liane plants in a forest are what differentiate the tropical from the temperate forest.

Amydriums were first described in 1968 when there were 4 species placed into the genus: A. medium, A. zippelianum, A. magnificum, and A. humile. All came from SE Asia and So. China, Java, Sumatra and New Guinea.

Since that time, A. magnificum has been merged as a synonym to the accepted name, A> zippelianum, while 2 new species have been found in Viet Nam: A. hainense and A. sinense. So there are 5 known described species.

The most commonly available (but still hard to find) is Amydrium zippelianum (aka magnificum). A. medium is also available but mainly through serious collectors.

This is Amydrium zippelianum, a deeply incised pinnate leaf makes it easy to identify. This one has rooted to the honeycomb in the cooling pad of my greenhouse.
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This ones creeping across the floor, looking for something to climb

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And this one is flourishing in my terrarium, new leaf!
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Amydrium medium looks completely different...large broad leaves with a bullate looking surface, both pinnation and fenestration present. I recently received this plant in a trade and it is rooted and still getting acclimated to the greenhouse
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Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Jun 8, 2020 12:44 AM CST
I am not growing any, but those are some cool looking plants! Especially the first photo. I'm not even sure where one might find any of these plants. I haven't seen them anywhere.
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
Region: Florida Tropicals Aroids
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Gina1960
Jun 8, 2020 6:28 AM CST
They tend to be hard to find. I am trying to propagate a few runners but they take forever. The one I put in my terrarium sat there for almost a year before it started growing now its growing really quick. I will eventually have to take it out of there
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Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Jun 8, 2020 7:30 PM CST
Hey, at least it's growing! Thumbs up
Name: Tofi
Sumatera, Indonesia
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tofitropic
Jun 12, 2020 10:20 PM CST
I grow Zippelianum, Medium and Humile
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This one is a green form of Medium
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a silver form of medium, they rarely show fenestration, most of time only splits
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a Humile, it has perfectly heart-shape thick and glossy leaves, no split, no holes
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There are variegated form circulated in the market of Zippelianum and Medium (both silver and green form), but too expensive now for me... need to be patient for now

Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Jun 14, 2020 7:13 PM CST
Those are beautiful and so unique, Tofi! Nice growing! I especially like the second and third photos, but I'm always a sucker for a heart shaped leaf like the fourth photo Lovey dubby Thumbs up
Name: Tofi
Sumatera, Indonesia
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tofitropic
Jun 14, 2020 7:22 PM CST
Thanks Adrienne, the A humile grow wild on the woods, some have bluish metallic shine, I wish I encounter a mutant form, a variegated may be... but the chance of finding mutant in the wild is pretty thin. it is the only Amydrium that could flowers without climbing to a tree that I know of, and they are popular with bugs
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Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Jun 14, 2020 7:26 PM CST
Hilarious! Hilarious!
I hate it when my favorite plants are popular with me AND bugs!
What do the flowers look like?
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
Region: Florida Tropicals Aroids
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Gina1960
Jun 14, 2020 7:34 PM CST
Humile is pretty uncommon here. I have never seen one in person only photos.
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Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Jun 14, 2020 7:50 PM CST
Crazy how some plants are coming out our ears (yet still labeled 'rare rare rare' by sellers) and others, it's like they don't exist! Impossible to find.
Name: Tofi
Sumatera, Indonesia
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tofitropic
Jun 14, 2020 7:50 PM CST
Actually Humile was never popular in my country too, it is the aroid crave that brings this one out of the woods..... but I really think it deserve to be in garden, it so waxy in person. I am sorry my picture is bad, I never really tend my plants well, I love it growing with bugs in my junglish garden...
and I don't have good camera, just this poor camera, (I prefer buying new plants rather than a camera... Hilarious! )
The flowers looks like a tiny monstera flowers. inconspicuous only 3cm long, with white unattractive spathe. I had a picture somewhere but could've find it. may be next time if I go to the woods, the woods is my property I went there some time if I need bamboo shoots for cooking... and bugs is not the only things there, there are lots of monkeys, snake and huge monitor lizards, and sure butterfly if you hate bugs
Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Jun 14, 2020 8:11 PM CST
I don't mind the butterflies. I'm not sure what I'd do if I saw a giant lizard, snake or a monkey. The only thing we'd see here is maybe a deer. Probably a bunch of squirrels. I think it's really cool that you can go collect bamboo shoots in your back yard and at the same time, see lots of amazing plants!
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
Region: Florida Tropicals Aroids
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Gina1960
Jun 15, 2020 6:12 AM CST
Sumatera is one of the places that many rare plants have been discovered by botanists out in the woods and ultimately described to science. That is the stomping grounds for a few right now who are collecting and studying the true Pothos among other things.
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Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Jun 15, 2020 9:40 AM CST
I always wonder what you mean when you say the true pothos. Has it been identified but it's still out there in the wild doing its pothos thing?
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
Region: Florida Tropicals Aroids
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Gina1960
Jun 15, 2020 12:25 PM CST
The true Pothos is the plants that actually belong in the genus, Pothos. One of the banes of horticulture is that Epipremnum aureum was originally believed to belong in the genus Pothos. Even though it was removed from Pothos and placed in Epipremnum, the damage was done and now all of the Neons, Marble Queens, Jade and Pearls and other cultivars on E. aureum are referred to under the general title 'Pothos'.

Its kind of like the Alocasia Poly and the Amazonia tag.

True pothos plants are rainforest plants that are really not that much to look at, there are a few that are kind of neat, but none have ever been considered widely marketable enough for the plant trade for someone to import them and try to produce them on a large scale. A few are popular with terrarium peeps and they will pay BIG BUCKS for tiny specimens.

If you want to see them, go to:
aroidpictures.fr and click on the genus Pothos. Prepare to be underwhelmed LOL. Dr. Peter Boyce is I think one of the main people currently doing field research on Pothos
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Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Jun 15, 2020 1:01 PM CST
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That's very good info, thank you. I'm going to look up what you said
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 35 years
Region: Florida Tropicals Aroids
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Gina1960
Jun 15, 2020 2:03 PM CST
They really aren't nothing much to look at LOL probably why they are not hot items here on a daily basis. I did see one come up on a Terrarium auction site the other day, the STARTING BID was $90.
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Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Jun 15, 2020 5:37 PM CST
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That's very good info, thank you. I'm going to look up what you said
Los Angeles, CA
Lacecha
Jun 16, 2020 12:59 AM CST
I'm growing A. Zippelianum, and A Medium and a variegated amydrium...

The Zipp seems almost indestructible... and I 100% love that... it was lost in the mail for weeks and pretty much arrived looking exquisite! I'll get some photos tomorrow... if u can't tell, I do love them generally!
Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
Adriennevs
Jun 16, 2020 10:45 PM CST
Gina1960 said:They really aren't nothing much to look at LOL probably why they are not hot items here on a daily basis. I did see one come up on a Terrarium auction site the other day, the STARTING BID was $90.


No thanks Glare
I don't know how I got a double post in there. Oops. Confused

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