Daylilies forum: Daylily Saffron Skye?????

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Name: Paul
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Paul2032
Jun 5, 2020 9:44 AM CST
I bought a daylily named Saffron Skye recently. I bought it at a local nursery and it was a Monrovia Plant. It bloomed for the first time today and it is gorgeous. It is not on the NGA data base and when I google it I find no information. Are you daylily people familiar with it? I am quickly becoming one of you. I will post a picture when I take one when the light is better.
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Name: Dave
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SunriseSide
Jun 5, 2020 9:56 AM CST
From the Monrovia catalog

Saffron Skye™ Daylily
Hemerocallis x 'MON9010' Plant Patent Applied For
Sku #44426
A reblooming daylily with bold color. Bright butter-yellow flowers add a fancy flair to the garden with especially frilly edges. This easy care compact plant tolerates a range of soils and can be tucked into nearly any garden to add reliable summer color. An herbaceous perennial.

Monrovia seems to be generating proprietary patented non-registered daylilies Grumbling

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Name: Paul
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Paul2032
Jun 5, 2020 10:01 AM CST
Many thanks for the info Dave.
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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Paul2032
Jun 5, 2020 10:43 AM CST
Dave or some one else please explain to an uneducated fancier what a Proprietary Patented Non-registered Daylily is? I appreciate the importance of registering Daylilies, Iris, Etc. Just want to get a feel for what Monrovia is doing.......
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
Name: Sue
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sooby
Jun 5, 2020 10:57 AM CST
Some register daylilies with AHS and also patent them, others patent but don't register with AHS, as is the case with this Monrovia daylily. A patented cultivar name is still a valid name even if not registered but when this happens it can cause confusion due to duplicate names. Its cultivar name from Dave's information is 'Mon9010', not Saffron Skye because that is a trade designation.
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Name: Paul
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Paul2032
Jun 5, 2020 11:00 AM CST
Thanks Sue.......
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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Paul2032
Jun 5, 2020 9:39 PM CST
Here are a couple of pictures of Monrovia's Saffron Skye which maybe should be known by its seedling number?
Thumb of 2020-06-06/Paul2032/804caf


Thumb of 2020-06-06/Paul2032/072955

Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
Name: Diana
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ShakespearesGarden
Jun 5, 2020 10:28 PM CST
I like the idea of only calling it by its seedling number. Patenting a plant without registering it with the proper society/association/thing feels like cheating somehow.
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sooby
Jun 6, 2020 5:41 AM CST
I don't know that 'MON9010' is necessarily its seedling number, although it could be. .But that is the cultivar name they are patenting for this daylily. Single quotes indicate a valid cultivar name, the same as with AHS registered daylilies.

Saffron Skye is a trade designation they are selling it under, it is not the cultivar name and should not be written within single quotes. This is a common practice, unfortunately, but on the bright side at least Monrovia are writing it correctly (following the TM or (R) word with the actual patented (or applied for) cultivar name in single quotes.

Another example of this practice would be Hydrangea ENDLESS SUMMER ('Bailmer') where Endless Summer is the trade designation the plant is sold under but 'Bailmer' is the actual cultivar name.

To give an example of a daylily that is both registered with AHS and patented, the cultivar 'Malja' is both but is sold under the trade designation of GOLDEN ZEBRA in the USA. You have a picture of that one in the NGA Database I see, Paul.




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Name: Paul
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Paul2032
Jun 6, 2020 4:41 PM CST
Thanks Sue
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah

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