Daylilies forum: Coloration is wrong for this plant

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Name: Larry
Augusta, GA area (Zone 8a)
Daylilies Hybridizer Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Georgia
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LarryW
Jun 5, 2020 9:11 PM CST
I bought Living in Paradise (L. Grace, 2016) at our local club auction last fall. Since we were planning to move (down-sizing) in the near future, I potted the plant and placed it where I was potting the other daylilies that I was planning to take with me. After a moderate winter and a wet, cool spring, I got it planted with my other red daylilies in a new bed in my "new" back yard. All of the daylilies that I moved were potted in the same soil mix that I had used for Living in Paradise. Everything was accomplished during October and November and transported to the new property (only 5 miles away) in early December. Due to a wet spring and a shortage of bulk growing mix from the local compost and soil merchant, I wasn't able to get everything in the new raised beds until early April when mid-to-late springtime weather arrived (upper 70's to lower 80's for highs and mid-50's to low 60's in the morning). All the plants loved their new surroundings and in a few weeks I saw some scapes. By that time and continuing, temperatures dropped back to more normal levels for April and early May (upper 60's to mid 70's for highs and 50's at night along with a few lower and a few higher), and the first few blooms started to open in mid-May. There were many blotchy blooms although the general colorations were all correct. On May 31, the first Living in Paradise bloomed. It was not blotchy at all, it was close to the correct size and the bloom looked like it was supposed to - except it was lavender, not red. I gave it more time to show the correct color, but it has not. Every bloom is lavender like the picture I have attached. The other red daylilies nearby are red like they are supposed to be. I've added a picture showing this and one from the database that I expected it to look like. I bought two other non-red flowers at the auction and they are true to their names. I talked to the grower from whom the club bought the plants and she was shocked and said that she sold some fans of that plant to other people during the year and had no indication of any problem. My plant has three fans and put up three healthy scapes. It will likely bloom out during the next week and every bloom on each of the three scapes has been lavender with the ones opening on Saturday morning already showing that they too will be lavender. Anyone have any idea what is going on? I'm planning on keeping the plant to see if it will be any different next year, but if you have an idea what is going on and a possible solution please let me know.
Larry W


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Name: Julie
Roanoke, VA (Zone 7a)
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floota
Jun 5, 2020 11:23 PM CST
It looks like a seedling got mixed in somehow. It happens.
Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Jun 5, 2020 11:54 PM CST
That happened to me after I bought a daylily at our club sale. I went back and checked what had been donated and found out what my daylily looked like. Just so happened that both the daylily I thought I bought and what I got came from the same persons' garden. Saved me from having another NOID. If you could get a list of the auction plants from last fall, maybe you can identify your lavender daylily.
Vickie
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Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Betja
Jun 6, 2020 1:41 AM CST
Larry, the lavender bloom on your plant looks very similar to another also introduced by Larry Grace in 2016 -- LIVING THE GOOD LIFE. I wonder if this could be your plant rather than LIVING IN PARADISE.

LIVING THE GOOD LIFE


Betty
Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Jun 6, 2020 6:50 AM CST
Wow, Betty! Great detective work! Larry's bloom really looks a lot like Living the Good Life! I would definitely try to see if the list of auction plants that he bought from had Living the Good Life on it.

Here are the stats on both:

Living in Paradise (Grace, 2016)
height 30 in.(76 cm), bloom 7 in.(18 cm), season EM, Rebloom, Evergreen, Tetraploid, Fragrant, 25 buds, 4 branches, Deep rose red with a green throat and cream edge. (Grace sldg × Tet. Rose F. Kennedy)

Living the Good Life (Grace, 2016)
height 27 in.(69 cm), bloom 7 in.(18 cm), season EM, Rebloom, Evergreen, Tetraploid, Fragrant, 20 buds, 4 branches, Lavender with a cream band around the green throat, cream ruffled edge. (Full of Treasure × Tet. Rose F. Kennedy


Vickie
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Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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touchofsky
Jun 6, 2020 6:51 AM CST
I think you may have solved this, Betty Hurray!
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Name: Larry
Augusta, GA area (Zone 8a)
Daylilies Hybridizer Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Georgia
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LarryW
Jun 7, 2020 12:35 PM CST
Thanks for taking the time to answer, particularly to Betty for knowing where and how to find the most likely answer and to Vickie for providing the statistics for the two plants. Based on this information my thought is that when the person who initially bought the plant and provided it for the auction received it, the plant was either misidentified to begin with or the clump was a mix of the two plants and I happened to get my 3 fans from the mixed portion.
Looks like I need to change the name on my garden marker and on my bed map and decide if I want to move it to the area with other lavender pink, lavender and purple flowers and buy another red daylily to take its current place. That sounds like a good justification for buying another daylily!
LarryW
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Betja
Jun 8, 2020 2:10 AM CST
And here is what today's bloom on LIVING THE GOOD LIFE looked like, both in the morning and early afternoon -- I love it!


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Oops -- I guess I meant yesterday's bloom, since it's after midnight...
Betty
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Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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Region: Indiana Garden Art Annuals Clematis Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 2
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blue23rose
Jun 8, 2020 5:32 AM CST
LarryW said:Looks like I need to change the name on my garden marker and on my bed map and decide if I want to move it to the area with other lavender pink, lavender and purple flowers and buy another red daylily to take its current place. That sounds like a good justification for buying another daylily!
LarryW


Definitely a reason to buy another daylily! Hilarious! Hurray!

Vickie
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Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jun 8, 2020 10:28 PM CST
Wait, we actually need reasons??? Rolling on the floor laughing
Bravery is not being unafraid. Bravery is being afraid and living life anyways.

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