Roses forum→finding a lost rose, Lucky Piece

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Newland , NC
womanofthewest
Jun 6, 2020 9:13 AM CST
I am the daughter of Winifred Gordon, who discovered the sport of Lucky Piece rose , growing in our Pennsylvania garden. My mother was a member of the Rose Society back in 1957 and knew she had something special. That same year tragedy struck and we lost our dear father. The patented rose was secreted of to Canada and Germany, where it was propagated . My mother never received a single cent. Our family dearly loved that beautiful rose and wondered if there was even one out there somewhere growing that we could keep to her memory. No such rose in any nursery but perhaps somebody out there might have one or two planted somewhere. I have a sister in Chardon Ohio and the rest of us dwell in North Carolina. Any ideas how to find one?
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Jun 6, 2020 6:12 PM CST
It's possible that it could exist somewhere, but with the name lost. I am so very sorry.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jun 6, 2020 7:04 PM CST

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I had this rose for a short time many years ago. I bought it from Vintage Gardens, which sold own-root roses. Sadly, this one did not grow well on its own roots.
Name: John Hunley
E. TN (Zone 7a)
Rose_Insanity
Jun 6, 2020 10:59 PM CST
Are you familiar with the HelpMeFind website? It's an encyclopedia for roses, peonies and clematis. It shows that (at least fairly recently) there were three people (well, one is a public garden) other than our Zuzu who were growing Lucky Piece in the USA. You might send them all a message through HMF to inquire if they still have it, and if they could spare a cutting (or even propagate one for you. Rose people are nice!). Here's the webpage for your mother's rose: https://www.helpmefind.com/gar...

Once on the page for Lucky Piece, click on the "Gardens" tab and it will take you to the page where you can click on the gardeners' names (in blue). That will take you to their profile page. On their individual profile page, find the "send PM" button to send them a message. Best of luck!

John

Edit: I forgot to mention that Zuzu has a photo on HMF of her Lucky Piece.
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis Irises
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zuzu
Jun 6, 2020 11:14 PM CST

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And I posted four photos in our own database.

Rose (Rosa 'Lucky Piece')

You can see how variable the colors are.
Name: John Hunley
E. TN (Zone 7a)
Rose_Insanity
Jun 7, 2020 9:12 PM CST
Zuzu, those are gorgeous photos. It's a shame your LP didn't survive. It's quite a looker.

Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis Irises
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zuzu
Jun 7, 2020 10:45 PM CST

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Thank you, John. I tried my best, buying it three separate times from Vintage Gardens, but some roses just refuse to thrive on their own roots.

That variability of color is part of the magic of the Peace bloodline. Peace itself blooms in different shades at different times of the year or under different conditions.

Rose (Rosa 'Peace')

Chicago Peace, another sport of Peace, exhibits that same tendencyj.

Rose (Rosa 'Chicago Peace')

Even second-generation descendants of Peace can exhibit the same variability of color. My favorites are Desert Peace and Glowing Peace.

Rose (Rosa 'Desert Peace')

Rose (Rosa 'Glowing Peace')
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
Jun 8, 2020 9:20 AM CST
zuzu said:Thank you, John. I tried my best, buying it three separate times from Vintage Gardens, but some roses just refuse to thrive on their own roots.

That variability of color is part of the magic of the Peace bloodline. Peace itself blooms in different shades at different times of the year or under different conditions.

Rose (Rosa 'Peace')

Chicago Peace, another sport of Peace, exhibits that same tendencyj.

Rose (Rosa 'Chicago Peace')

Even second-generation descendants of Peace can exhibit the same variability of color. My favorites are Desert Peace and Glowing Peace.

Rose (Rosa 'Desert Peace')

Rose (Rosa 'Glowing Peace')


What about Pink Peace? I have a Pink Peace that's getting ready to open. It looks like its gonna have petals that fade like Peace.
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
Jun 8, 2020 8:25 PM CST
I have Pink Peace also and it is a bright candy pink and doesn't change color. The thing that sets it apart is the very thin white edging on the petals (picotee).

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