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Jun 6, 2020 11:19 AM CST
TN
Hello,
This is my first post. I planted what I thought were 5 White Oak (quercus alba) trees that I bought from Arbordayfoundation shipped from smithville TN I believe.

The leaves started coming out now. Correct me if I'm wrong but is this white oak or red oak? Looks like red oak to me or something other than Quercus Alba. Anyone knowledgeable about the difference able to help out here?
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Jun 6, 2020 11:41 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
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It is a member of the Red Oak/Black Oak group.
All of the lobes of those leaves end in a point. The White Oak group has lobes that are round.
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Jun 6, 2020 12:40 PM CST
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BigBill said:It is a member of the Red Oak/Black Oak group.
All of the lobes of those leaves end in a point. The White Oak group has lobes that are round.


Thanks for confirming my suspicion. I thought it looked odd but wondered if it's possible the new buds might by chance start with a point then they go away. Sad to say when I ordered over a dozen of them on eBay a couple years ago for half the cost they actually sent me the right thing. You'd think arborday would be more professional. This is my second negative experience with them in a row. I'm not buying from them again and will be demanding a refund.

(What my others look like)



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Jun 6, 2020 1:18 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
GROW ORCHIDS!!!
Bee Lover Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Orchids Region: Michigan Hostas Growing under artificial light
Echinacea Critters Allowed Cat Lover Butterflies Birds Region: United States of America
Now that is a white oak.

I just have no idea of just what their quality control is. Are the people who select and grow them, the same people that pack them. I have no idea.
Taught classes on Orchids and Orchid growing and led hundreds of bird walks. Retired Wildlife Biologist.
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Jun 6, 2020 1:43 PM CST
Name: Sally
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Have read many gripes about arbor day trees over the years. Mind boggling.
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Jun 6, 2020 1:51 PM CST
TN
Indeed. You'd think a national organization that is supposedly passionate about trees would be more organized and actually care. Now I have to dig those red oaks up and find a friend to give them to, then rebuy, plant again mulch Etc.. such an aggravation that could have been avoided if anyone had common sense..

Not trying to promote eBay or anything but If I can't find what I want locally I'd feel more comfortable buying from a seller with a good reputation on there at a good price. They'll want to protect their reputation on there so they'll be more accountable. That's been my experience at least. Maybe I've just been lucky on there so far.
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