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Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
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Strever
Jun 7, 2020 9:17 PM CST
the Podo's in the green house are finished blooming for this season
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But the Podo's in the garden are at their peak of the bloom
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and the Hexandrum just started poking their noses up out of the ground a cpl weeks ago
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and the pollen on the Podo's in the green house would only last at most 3 days even with the precautions i took and some plants the pollen just wasn't ready at the right time

i did have 5 or 6 different kind of plants to work with which if you think about it can be a lot
as i'm checking now and seeing some fruits shriveling up that did not make it and feeling relieved i won't have so many different babys to raise. BUT there are still a lot of seed pods getting big

sooo in planning for next season i need to think which plants to keep out side for a later pollen and bring the slow ones like hexadrum inside

and also try to find a better way to store the pollen for trade with you all

and the most important seed pods that are growing are the KGGG and i did a lot of them Smiling
which means i will have a lot of KGGG (Kaleidoscope) babys for those of you that want some

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Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
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Strever
Jun 7, 2020 9:37 PM CST
i lost 2 babies in the heat last week from lack of moisture
BUT
the others which were moist are booming and growing and trying to even get some color Smiling
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plus look how many nubbins this one is sprouting
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plus most of the difforme are sending up new sprouts
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Name: Bea
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bumplbea
Jun 11, 2020 11:29 PM CST
Sorry about the loss of the two baby plants. Sometimes it's frustrating when a lot of work and expectations hang in the balance.

I wanted to report a new baby I found today in my garden of May apples.Podophyllum; ‎Linnaeus
Species‎: ‎P. peltatum

I believe a new hybrid has possibly popped up. The leaves are totally different than the species growing . The new leaf in question is glossy in comparison to the leaves of the species grown. The shape of the new leaf is shaped similar to 'Spotty Dottty'.

See pics. What do you think?
New hybrid leaf resting on the other leaf shape.
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Leafs of the May apple growing
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New leaf different shape showing stem and base into soil.
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It's the only new shaped leaf in the whole area . I will have to protect this one and mark it to know where to look for next spring.
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I’m so busy... “I don’t know if I found a rope or lost a horse.”
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
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Strever
Jun 19, 2020 10:59 PM CST
i wanted to show the growth of the various seed pods that will not be ready to pick until approx Oct

1st are some future KGGG's and there will be a lot of them
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to show the size
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Imperial sunrise
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Red Panda
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Pleianthum
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and Spotty Dotty
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Gardens are a thing of Beauty and a job forever
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
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Strever
Jun 19, 2020 11:10 PM CST
i wanted to show the pod of my baby SDK to also be larger but it hasn't gotten much larger then last pict
and i'm not sure if it is just a bad pod or the baby SDK is putting all the energy into tons of new growth

seed pod
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New Growth
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Name: Bea
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bumplbea
Jun 19, 2020 11:13 PM CST

Wow so cool. Love the variety of pod size shape and colors.

Are these the seeds you are saving to plant next season?

These will nice to see your new cross seeds and plants.
I’m so busy... “I don’t know if I found a rope or lost a horse.”
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Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
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Strever
Jun 19, 2020 11:29 PM CST
hi Bea
yes these are the new seeds from the crosses i did this season, notice the tags with id info
and come this winter approx OCT i will pick them and put them in something to germinate
and hopefully they will pop their little heads up and show off next spring

and i'm thinking i might have done too many this time, looks like there might be more then 200
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Name: Bea
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bumplbea
Jun 20, 2020 3:11 PM CST
You are so organized . I guess it's better to label everything could be tricky later. 200 seeds is a lot. Yikes🙃
Can't wait to see all the new hybrids. Good luck.

I'm still keeping my eye out for the hew baby hybrid that just popped up out of nowhere in the garden. I'm still wondering how that happened when I only had the common mayapples Podophyllum peltatum. It's still in the same area only one . When summer heats up or if we ever get summer, I will keep it sheltered and marked until clean up then mark the spot over winter. I have a feeling next winter will be a long one...
Rolling on the floor laughing
I’m so busy... “I don’t know if I found a rope or lost a horse.”
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NJBob
Sep 7, 2020 9:06 PM CST
Dick just wondering how all your crosses are going?
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
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Strever
Sep 7, 2020 11:07 PM CST
Bob
i have been losing them one after another
the first seed pod loss was the one on my baby SDK Crying
then one of the Pandas lost all the seed pods
a cpl of the KSD pods didn't make it and so forth
they just quit growing bigger
the most recent loss is one whole Imperial sunrise quit
i opened the pods to see what was happening and they had itty bitty seeds that just didn't delvelop
i think the plant was too young to handle the pregnancy Smiling
but there are still some very large seed pods developing as large or larger then golf balls
and boy am i going to have a lot of Kaleidoscope seed Wow
i've also lost several of my babys
seems the KSD crosses aren't as strong as the SDK
and i'm down to only 3 KSD babys
but the SDK babys are doing very good, i even put some out in the garden
we have had a cpl heat waves were the Green house got over 100°
sure made a bunch of limpy everything in there
most have recovered some have not and i will just have to wait til spring
hope i haven't rattled on too long for an answer
i should take some picts and show status
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Name: Bob
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NJBob
Sep 8, 2020 7:44 PM CST
Never I always find your experiences with these plants interesting.
Was wondering if you ever received your delavayi from China?
Update on the Spotty Dotty plants, all are doing well and most have had additional growth.The plants from Japan while not getting any bigger have done well. The SDK looked good up till about a couple of weeks ago but I think will be gone very soon , will have to see if it comes back next season.
Did the Hosta you bought ever recover?
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
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Strever
Sep 8, 2020 10:41 PM CST
yes got the Delavayi from china dead
the UK postal service held on to them for over a month
but the seller has said he will replace them come Oct?
and i will give him my import permit so he can ship them properly
the SDKs are all looking good here so yours will come back in the spring
Pauls glory is still looking sad
the others are all OK except for some slug damage


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Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6a)
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NJBob
Sep 9, 2020 9:11 AM CST
That is good news that they will replace them. I would think PG will come back fine next season. I did look at the site from Japan , but they have not listed plants yet.
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
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Strever
Sep 10, 2020 9:36 PM CST
i check every week Smiling
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Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Sep 11, 2020 6:18 PM CST
They have settled in nicely

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Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
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Strever
Sep 12, 2020 11:58 AM CST
looking very happy
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Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Sep 12, 2020 12:18 PM CST
Hoping they make it through our zone 4b winter!
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6a)
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NJBob
Sep 12, 2020 7:13 PM CST
They look good RJ. , Hopefully they make it for you.
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
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Strever
Sep 12, 2020 8:11 PM CST
cpl weeks ago i was in the garden with a tape measure and measured Mother Spotty Dotty
she is 16" across Smiling
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Gardens are a thing of Beauty and a job forever
Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Bookworm Snakes Plant Database Moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator
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NJBob
Sep 12, 2020 8:44 PM CST
That is impressive, how many years do you have that plant?

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