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hlutzow
Jun 8, 2020 6:19 AM CST
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Perusal of the big nursery websites gave me the name Peperomia serpens but the database groups serpens with scandens.

Anyone know what this little plant is?
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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Jun 8, 2020 11:10 AM CST
According to the Catalogue of Life (what NGA uses as the final authority), P. scandens is a synonym for P. serpens. You could suggest a change to the Data Base.
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Iochroma
Jun 8, 2020 6:19 PM CST
P. scandens and serpens are not the same (and this is not P. scandens).
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Jun 8, 2020 7:42 PM CST
Iochroma said:P. scandens and serpens are not the same (and this is not P. scandens).


You will have to duke it out with the Catalogue of Life, the NGA Bible. Smiling Maybe you can show us what/why you think they are different plants?
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plantladylin
Jun 8, 2020 7:54 PM CST
It sure resembles Peperomia (Peperomia serpens) - synonym Peperomia scandens

More photos for comparison on these pages:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/...
https://stevesleaves.com/produ...
https://spokaneplantfarm.com/p...



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Name: cheapskate gardener
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hlutzow
Jun 8, 2020 8:04 PM CST
Well.... Looks like I stepped in it. Thinking

I'll see about untangling this conundrum.

Thank You!
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Name: cheapskate gardener
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hlutzow
Jun 8, 2020 8:09 PM CST
I'm using this to collate my evidence...

http://portal.cybertaxonomy.or...
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...
https://species.wikimedia.org/...
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Name: cheapskate gardener
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hlutzow
Jun 8, 2020 8:19 PM CST
DaisyI said:

You will have to duke it out with the Catalogue of Life, the NGA Bible. Smiling Maybe you can show us what/why you think they are different plants?


Honestly, I think they are two different plants that have acquired the synonym of P. scandens. Or, they've acquired eachother's names as synonyms due to 'stuff'. The leaf shape is too different and the native range, when paired with the appropriate picture, of each plant are not in the same parts of the world.

It'll probably bug me until I at least work it out for myself. Smiling
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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Jun 8, 2020 8:47 PM CST
I don't grow either plant so can't help you sort this out but, I do take the Catalogue of Life seriously.

The internet on the other hand is a massive collection of misinformation. Someone posts something, right or wrong, and its in the social collective forever.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming...."WOW What a Ride!!" -Mark Frost

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Webmaster: osnnv.org
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: United States of America Deer Region: Florida Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Jun 8, 2020 8:54 PM CST
Your link to the Catalogue of Life page is for Peperomia dimota which is an accepted species name with a synonym name of Peperomia serpens.

Peperomia serpens is also an accepted species and it has a bunch of synonyms. Confused yet? Rolling on the floor laughing


Here's the CoL listing for the accepted P. serpens, along with it's long list of synonyms:
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...
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Name: cheapskate gardener
South Florida (Zone 10a)
Container Gardener Foliage Fan Frugal Gardener Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Adeniums
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hlutzow
Jun 8, 2020 9:17 PM CST
plantladylin said:Your link to the Catalogue of Life page is for Peperomia dimota which is an accepted species name with a synonym name of Peperomia serpens.

Peperomia serpens is also an accepted species and it has a bunch of synonyms. Confused yet? Rolling on the floor laughing


Here's the CoL listing for the accepted P. serpens, along with it's long list of synonyms:
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...


Yep. Confuzzled. Definitely.
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