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Hiyamakki
Jun 9, 2020 10:58 PM CST
There's a sale on at Tulip World. I got Cora Louise and Julia rose which will ship in the fall but All that Jazz is spring shipping for some reason. I assume that means this spring? So do I store it until fall? If so, how and where? It was the most expensive of the three at $32 (still cheaper than anywhere else I've seen). I hope I haven't made a mistake.
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frankrichards16
Jun 10, 2020 4:20 AM CST
You would plant it now. Some nurseries sell peonies in the spring. They can be potted (perhaps a tissue culture) or a bareroot.
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Hiyamakki
Jun 10, 2020 7:25 AM CST
Thank you! Its a bareroot so I'm guessing I won't see any growth untill next sping.
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Mieko2
Jun 10, 2020 9:43 AM CST

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I got an All That Jazz from TW last Spring. It had a little bit of growth on it, so I planted it. This year it looks fine, but no blooms.
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LizinElizabeth
Jun 10, 2020 9:50 AM CST

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I got ATJ from TW last year as well and it bloomed, think it came in last March. It was a Single but the color looked right. No bud this year.
Hiyamakki, I'd pot it up and place it in a semi shaded area, they don't like a lot of heat when first planted. It'll be cooler and struggle less for water in the shade, maybe form some capillary roots and be a stronger root to plant in the ground this fall
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Hiyamakki
Jun 10, 2020 10:59 AM CST
Thank you. I think I'll do that. Completely off topic but any recommendations for a poppy orange peony? I see reds and corals but the closest to orange I've seen is Kopper Kettle (which I would like if I find it cheap enough) but it's not really orange.
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LizinElizabeth
Jun 10, 2020 11:23 AM CST

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I think one of the European hybridizers shared a pic of a seedling that was orangish but I don't think there is a single one sold commercially that is orange for herbaceous or Itohs. There are a few tree peonies that look orange at times during bloom because of their mix of red and yellow, Kinkaku is the first one that jumps to mind
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Jasmin
Jun 10, 2020 11:37 AM CST


I also thought of Kinkaku, but Kinkaku is copperish, mixture of yellow and burgundy; probably as close as it gets to orange. Kinkaku also changes the color from one year to another.

Cannot think of anything even close to scarlet poppies, or the color of pomegranate flower:
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Hiyamakki
Jun 10, 2020 12:46 PM CST
The stripes on Shima Nishiki tree peony a a bit of a rusty orange. I just found a thread on Houzz where someone said that the red and yellow in peonies are in different layers of the petal so you don't get a true orange.

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Hiyamakki
Jun 12, 2020 3:32 PM CST
My root came today (so fast!). It already has about 7 shoots; some with the beginning of leaves! Should I plant it with the shoots coming out of the soil? The shoots are all kinked, growing at 90 degrees to the eyes.
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anyagoro
Jun 12, 2020 6:20 PM CST
I would plant it with shoots coming out of the soil. Good luck.
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Mieko2
Jun 12, 2020 8:04 PM CST

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Plant it with the roots straight down. The stems will fix themselves to be straight in a few days.
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Hiyamakki
Jun 13, 2020 1:14 AM CST
Thanks guys!
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Hiyamakki
Aug 25, 2020 4:47 PM CST
@Meiko2 I see that you're also in 7a. When do you do your fall plantings?
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Mieko2
Aug 26, 2020 5:30 AM CST

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@hiyamakki , I really try to plant my Fall peony roots as soon as I get them, on the weekend following receipt. I have had to delay for a few days if it is raining, but it doesn't seem to bother them.

I do wait until late in the Fall to move any Peonies that I transplant from one spot to another. That seems to work well for me.
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Hiyamakki
Aug 30, 2020 8:48 PM CST
I have the All that Jazz that arrived in the summersitting in a pot in the shade. How long should I wait to get it in the ground? I was thinking early November when I put my bulbs in?
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Topdecker
Aug 30, 2020 11:09 PM CST
Hiyamakki said:I have the All that Jazz that arrived in the summersitting in a pot in the shade. How long should I wait to get it in the ground? I was thinking early November when I put my bulbs in?


I think that you can go now if you want to. I will eventually have to start digging roots at the top of September because I want to be done by mid-October if possible. I have a bagged peony that has all but lost it's stems that I am thinking about planting now since it isn't going to benefit from sunlight at all.

Otherwise, early to mid-October. You want the peony roots to have some time to get established before the ground gets cold and they go dormant.

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Mieko2
Aug 31, 2020 5:26 AM CST

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Since it is in a pot I think it is fine to go on and get it in the ground now. That way you can make sure it gets going well. If it is in a potting mix in the pot I always wash all of that off before planting. You want it in the soil it is going to grow in. Do not let the roots dry out, so dig the new hole first, wash the potting mix off, and plant immediately.

Post pictures of the roots of you want!!
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Hiyamakki
Sep 1, 2020 9:08 AM CST
I might put it off until early October then. I've my fall roses coming this month so that's going to take up some time.

My peony is my usual planting mix. Native soil, gypsum, bonemeal, bagged topsoil, lots of compost. It's been working great for my roses. Hopefully the peonies like it too. I'm planning to add perlite to the mix going forth since I have heavy red clay.

I do 18 to 24 inch holes for my roses (depth & width). Can the peonies do with less if I'm just planting roots? I know they need to be about 2 inches or so below ground.
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Topdecker
Sep 1, 2020 9:57 AM CST
Loosen the soil about a foot in all directions. I have clay and usually remove about a square foot and break the clay up by hand. I've since moved on to loosening the soil with a big broadfork, but that's no day at the beach either.

You are just trying to make sure that the peony can easily expand it's root system while aerating the soil. Clay is especially bad about forming an air-tight seal, so mixing topsoil with the clay should help the peony out a great deal.

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