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Jun 10, 2020 10:24 AM CST
Milpitas, CA
So I don't want to use herbicide.

I read that I can use a water/bleach solution at equal parts. I will be spraying on rocks. So I don't care about the dirt underneath.

3 questions

Is this better than herbicide, or am I lying to myself?

Do I have to worry about the water/bleach solution drifting in the air, like with herbicide drift?

IF I DID CARE, about the dirt underneath the rocks, how long would I have to wait (ballpark estimation) til i could grow something there again?

Please and thank you
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Jun 10, 2020 11:32 AM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
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Bleach breaks down very quickly even if put on straight.
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Jun 10, 2020 11:34 AM CST
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Why are you spraying bleach on rocks?
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Jun 10, 2020 1:03 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
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Jun 10, 2020 1:08 PM CST
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You can use full strength vinegar to kill the weeds if you wish, works very well.the effects should dissipate faster than bleach.
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Jun 10, 2020 6:22 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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RpR said:Bleach breaks down very quickly even if put on straight.


Yes, turns into salt and water. At least you won't burn the neighborhood down.
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Jun 10, 2020 6:33 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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I can understand not wanting to cause environmental damage, but, the least damaging between Roundup, bleach, and vinegar is Roundup.

Its a contact spray, the minute its dry, the damage is done. No residual in the soil. Vinegar and bleach are both very toxic to the environment and the after affects of their application will live on in the soil.

If you take the proper precautions, Roundup won't hurt you. Those people in the news who are making millions got cancer after using Roundup for 50 years, without protecton. I assume you are going to take the proper precautions (air mask and long sleaves and pants, shoes and a shower afterward). Use a sprayer with the "cone of shame".

Vinegar and bleach will both burn your skin and poison your soil for the forseeable future.
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Jun 10, 2020 6:57 PM CST
Milpitas, CA
omg DaisyI I wasn't going to use protective gear. Thank you for the warning.

I seriously didn't think about that.

So I was going to reply earlier about my vinegar. I only have 5%. So that's why I was going to use bleach. Now I'll use roundup, and wear the correct gear while administering.

How do I protect my geraniums/pelargoniums, lemon tree, succulents, lilies, etc., from herbicide drift? And my veggies? I've heard of covering your plants. But that's a lot of plants. Can't cover the area you spray, because the plants can't suffocate. They have to keep going on as normal so the chemicals circulate through their system. Thinking
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Jun 10, 2020 7:08 PM CST
Name: sumire
Reno, Nevada (Zone 6a)
Pick a day or time of day with very little or no wind. Use the cone that comes with many sprayers as an attachment to prevent side drift and keep the sprayer nozzle (and its cone) right next to the ground. Then there is almost no drift because it is all under the cone.

You won't spray or drift any of the big plants unless you start flailing about indiscriminately with the sprayer. And if you run over the edge of a geranium or something next to the plants you are spraying, pluck the part you sprayed off immediately.
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Jun 10, 2020 7:15 PM CST
Name: Sharon Rose
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If you are careful...not to burn yourself or get it near good plants... just pour boiling water on them. Stubborn weeds may take a couple of times...but it works. I have an electric teapot and that makes it easy for smaller areas. I have seen you tubes where people boil the water on their gas grills...you need to be careful with large amounts of boiling water getting on yourself!

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Jun 10, 2020 7:25 PM CST
Milpitas, CA
Thank you all again.
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Jun 10, 2020 9:06 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
SoulReaver009 said:
So I was going to reply earlier about my vinegar. I only have 5%. So that's why I was going to use bleach. Now I'll use roundup, and wear the correct gear while administering.

The Round-up adds are an exaggeration by lawyers to get people to make them some money, period.
The veterans from 'Nam have a reason, as what was used there is what Roundup and similar items came from and it was sprayed from an aircraft.

I have put on stuff a LOT stronger than Roundup and do not wear any gear; although I do not get it on myself, even doing it barefoot in shorts and I do not have to try hard to avoid it.
Vinegar and bleach are NOT more toxic than Roundup.
They go away quickly, far quicker than Roundup unless you are going to pour out a gallon in one spot and then it is only a problem as long as it is a running liquid.

I used to scrub my shower with straight bleach and no gloves but the fumes finally made me stop that , though I had very clean hands after ward.
I spray my garage with a bleach type mold killer that is far stronger than kitchen bleach and the mist has not killed the roses or grass it fell on.
If you use a weed/vegetation killer, I have used many types of vegetation/weed killer and for the money Roundup is not the best , just the best known.
If you know your weed/s I have found, often, a dedicated killer for that weed is better than a shot gun approach. I tip my hat to you.
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