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Name: Desertgarden
Central Texas (Austin Area) (Zone 8b)
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DesertgardenLV
Jun 11, 2020 5:00 PM CST
So, what is your "Best" rose(s)? Based upon your gardening conditions, what rose(s) checks all of the boxes for you?

What I look for is 1. disease resistance 2. a good repeat 3. fragrance 4. visual appeal in color, bush form, leaves, and overall plant health

The best roses in my slightly Northern Central Texas Garden thus far are:

Belinda's Dream - great disease resistance, quick repeat, fragrant, pretty blooms on a nicely shaped bush

Olivia Austin Rose - similar to Belinda's Dream, however, with a slower repeat

Dee-lish - It checks all of the boxes, is a vigorous grower, and the fragrance is a wow!!
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
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seilMI
Jun 11, 2020 5:25 PM CST
So far this season it's Bull's Eye with Julia Child a close second.



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Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Jun 11, 2020 5:30 PM CST
In coastal Southern California, my best rose, hands-down, is "Grandmother's Hat":

In my climate, it is very disease-resistant. It is fragrant. The bloom form and color are changeable enough to give it appealing variety, and it is a versatile, and always attractive plant.

It makes long stems, for the vase. And if picked reasonably tight, it has a very long vase-life.

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Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 6b)
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Mike
Jun 11, 2020 6:16 PM CST
Among my best and most consistent performers are:

Blush Veranda (aka Blush Flower Circus)
Bouquet Parfait
Cherry Parfait
Fragrant Cloud
Mother of Pearl
Opening Night
Westerland

As for the best of the above, it would have to be Blush Veranda.

Name: Desertgarden
Central Texas (Austin Area) (Zone 8b)
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DesertgardenLV
Jun 12, 2020 11:46 AM CST
Gorgeous roses, Seil and Jerijen!

Grandmother's Hat and Larry Daniels were two of my favorite roses in the desert garden. I am so tempted to try G.H. here in (northern) Central Texas. My in-laws reside in Camarillo and for a year, off and on, I track the temperature and humidity in Camarillo, which compared to here (right now Camarillo is at 59% humidity and we are at 35% humidity, but, it will hit 90 degrees later today, versus the very lovely 75 degrees for Camarillo). I have not determined how the information I have been tracking, as well as other factors, provide insight as to whether or not G.H. would be happy here. I think I will just try it!

A "in full bloom Westerland" is a beautiful site to see, Mike. I have coveted it for years and tried to grow it once, very unsuccessfully. Is it fragrant?
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 6b)
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Mike
Jun 12, 2020 12:29 PM CST
Yes, Desertgarden, it's very fragrant. My two Westerlands are only in their second season, but have already bloomed nicely. Here's a photo from earlier this week.



Edited to add that I purchased Westerland from Palatine last spring.
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Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Jun 12, 2020 12:31 PM CST
You know, though, we have had a terrible heatwave. The other morning, it was 90 here, before we finished breakfast.

The difference between here and TX (Well, of course, there are many!) is that heat in TX (except West TX, below El Paso) is far more humid. When we hit 102 here, last week (yes, within sight of the Pacific ocean!) it was 12% humidity. If YOUR area gets hot ... it also get humid. And that's why we haven't been down to TX in a few years. I'm such a pantywaist!

So, as good at "Grandmother's Hat" is HERE -- she'd probably be a blackspotty mess in hot/humid weather.
Name: Desertgarden
Central Texas (Austin Area) (Zone 8b)
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DesertgardenLV
Jun 12, 2020 2:45 PM CST
Jerijen-

I was told we do not have Japanese Beetles issues here because the dryness that occurs during the heat of Summer does not allow for the completion of their life cycle.

My husband grew up in Camarillo, and when family members ask about the humidity here, his response is " really similar to there... as in the hills of Camarillo" and Van Nuys... G.H. was good in the desert, and it clearly thrives in Camarillo. One more year of observing and comparing humidity levels and then a decision will have to be made...

Wow!! Your Westerland is absolutely gorgeous, Mike! Geesh!!!

Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Jun 13, 2020 10:57 AM CST
Desert -- Camarillo today is vastly different than the Camarillo your DH grew up in.

As the ocean currents warm, our temperatures have risen. I suspect he remembers a Camarillo where no one had air conditioning. No one needed it. A Camarillo surrounded by orchards and strawberry fields, where the smell of strawberries filled the air in the summer, and fog in July and August was common.

Now, the strawberry fields have sprouted a growing "crop" of shopping malls and dense housing. The orchards are mostly gone. The ambient temperatures have risen, and air conditioning is becoming important, even on hillsides that catch a west wind.
Name: Desertgarden
Central Texas (Austin Area) (Zone 8b)
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DesertgardenLV
Jun 13, 2020 11:38 AM CST
The changes are saddening. The majority of his siblings and parents still live in Camarillo, one sibling lives in Van Nuys and the other farther north up the coast. We use to visit very regularly. He fondly remembers when his parent's home backed up to the strawberry fields. Not anymore...as the homes continued to move up and cover the hills. Some of the changes are sad...and the fires...

During our summer visits, we purchase loads of strawberries and all kinds of goodies from the Somas Nut House. We have not visited for two years, but will this August.

My MIL can still grow gorgeous roses, and fruit trees, which is always a plus!!
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Jun 13, 2020 12:33 PM CST
If you come this summer, you should hit Underwoods, on 118, not far from the Somis Nut House.

It's still beautiful here, but we feel like they're trying really hard to turn this little agricultural area into Orange County. <SIGH>

Yes. We can still grow lovely roses here, but I am now watching and waiting to see how long it takes for RRD, Chilli Thrips, and maybe Japanese Beetles, to get here.

For the present, though, at least we still have the hills, and (most of the time) our wonderful sea breeze.
Baton Rouge, LA, zone 8b/9a.
MikeInBatonRouge
Jun 13, 2020 2:03 PM CST
Fun question, and I cannot really answer it, because my current garden is only two years old, and they say you should give any rose three years at least to evaluate it properly. Plus, as I stopped all chemical spraying last year, some old favorites are no-go for me now, or at least need extra care in where and how to grow them to avoid defoliating.

Interestingly, other problems have improved with no-spray. My lighter colored roses used to be plagued by Western flower thrips damage. Now that is just a brief springtime annoyance. Yay!

So, roses I have grown and loved with no fuss for at least three years: Madame Antoine Marie...delicate pink blend(tea), Belinda's Dream ...phlox pink(modern shrub), Dark Desire deepest violet-crimson(HT), Wedding Bells...medium satiny pink(HT). All of these have been bulletproof for me so far once established. All are fragrant, Dark Desire being easily the most intensely so. And all except Dark Desire are pink, which is funny, because pink is both by far the most prevalent color among roses and the LEAST exciting color to me So I will laugh at myself a little. A good rose is a good rose, (almost)regardless of color, or perhaps in spite of it. Even saying that, I realise I dislike roses with a greenish cast to outer petals, such as St. Patrick and Table Mountain.

A caveat about Dark Desire, which Chamblee's Nursery recently stopped carrying, for this reason: It does not care for pots and tends to sulk in them, which makes selling them in little pots awkward. It also has an awkward, gangly teenager stage of growth until it has matured two to four years. Eventually the bush starts looking bushy and attractive, but until then it might approximate a blackberry bramble. But the FRAGRANCE and COLOR are both so stellar and the foliage so healthy, I easily forgive it those challenges.
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Baton Rouge, LA, zone 8b/9a.
MikeInBatonRouge
Jun 13, 2020 2:21 PM CST
I just responded with my short list of best established performers.
Some brand new (to me) roses I am already excited about already showing great promise I have either only just planted them or they are in their second season with me. But I'll throw up the list, for what it's worth. I bought all based on reported blackspot resistance. Rust here is non-existant. (Take THAT, California!) 😉. Powdery mildew is brief and minimal. Botrytis is an issue but pales in comparison to blackspot.
The up and comers for me:
Easy Spirit, Savannah, Paloma Blanca, Winter Sun, Francis Meilland, Grande Dame, Pink Enchantment, Plum Perfect, Caramella, and the pillar rose Lady Ashe! OMG! Lady Ashe and Savannah both especially crank out tons of blooms, and I haven't had either one more than two months. Imagine in their second and third years. Easy Spirit and Plum Perfect, also just babies, are just a step behind but eager to bloom. All that I listed are like "blackspot? What is blackspot? Never heard of it."
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 6b)
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Mike
Jun 13, 2020 4:26 PM CST
Mike,

Paloma Blanca is one of my favorite roses; I got mine from Roses Unlimited. Here are some older photos of it. I like to think that some of the blooms look like those little cups of ice cream with the peel-off lids I would eat as a kid, with the swirl on top (see first photo).

In my experience, the blooms are so dense and deeply cupped that they hold onto rainwater, often causing the petals to brown prematurely if it doesn't have a chance to evaporate quickly.



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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Jun 13, 2020 5:41 PM CST
What beautiful photos!
Porkpal
Baton Rouge, LA, zone 8b/9a.
MikeInBatonRouge
Jun 14, 2020 7:25 AM CST
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Baton Rouge, LA, zone 8b/9a.
MikeInBatonRouge
Jun 14, 2020 7:27 AM CST
Mike, good to know about Paloma Blanca. I have my baby one planted on the end of my big rose bed closest to my driveway. I will have to remember to go shake the water out of those blooms after rain showers, lol
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Name: Desertgarden
Central Texas (Austin Area) (Zone 8b)
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DesertgardenLV
Jun 14, 2020 6:21 PM CST
Paloma Blanca appears to be a beautiful rose in Mike, NY's garden. Please continue to share your experiences Mike, B.R. I may need to try this rose!
Name: Desertgarden
Central Texas (Austin Area) (Zone 8b)
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Jun 15, 2020 12:12 PM CST
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