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Name: Angie Concord, NC (zone 7)              Hemophobic Apr 27, 2011 7:23 PM CST |
| Golden Celebration: Julia Child:  Celine Forestier: Lyda Rose:  Tradescant: Comte de Chambourd:  Elgantyne: Molineux (badly eaten by pesky little green worms):  Angel Face:  That's it for now! I think that if ever a mortal heard the voice of God it would be in a garden at the cool of the day. ~F. Frankfort Moore, A Garden of Peace |
Name: Zuzu Northern California (Zone 9a)          zuzu Apr 27, 2011 11:45 PM CST |
| Beautiful! I do think your Angel Face isn't really Angel Face, though. Your Molineux looks great for "badly eaten." It's such a pretty rose. |
Name: Angie Concord, NC (zone 7) Hemophobic Apr 28, 2011 5:13 AM CST |
| Sorry, Zu, if it isn't AF, but that's what it was labeled when I bought it. Boohoo! I think that if ever a mortal heard the voice of God it would be in a garden at the cool of the day. ~F. Frankfort Moore, A Garden of Peace |
Name: Porkpal Richmond, TX     porkpal Apr 28, 2011 7:26 AM CST |
| My Angel Face does not look quite like that either. Porkpal |
 CLUSIANA Apr 28, 2011 1:42 PM CST |
Hi cubits roses member. Still around with some pics for you all If I am on the wrong thread pls delete or move this post. C. Come along and take a walk in a French garden~~Click here for Specie Tulips and other bulbs. Click here to Clusiana Primula Thread~~Click here for Clusiana Beautiful Irises thread |
Name: Toni Denver Metro (Zone 5a) Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.         Skiekitty Apr 28, 2011 1:52 PM CST |
Angie - Yea, that's not Angel Face.. way too full & not ruffled. More like a Ruffled HT. But GORGEOUS. I know who else's house I'm gonna come in the middle of the night & steal some roses from.  Too bad you're like .. what, 1500 miles away? Just a .. 2 day drive. (yes, that's a ridiculous amount, worst I've ever done in 1 day was 999.8 miles in 16 hours, so I figured that 1500 miles should be a 2 day drive.)Roses are one of my passions! Just opened, my Etsy shop (to fund my rose hobby)! http://www.etsy.com/shop/Tweet... |
Name: Zuzu Northern California (Zone 9a) zuzu Apr 28, 2011 2:27 PM CST |
| Hello, Clusiana. So glad you're back. The photos are gorgeous. Your Tulipa link, however, takes me to the Cubits home page. It must be a link to a cubit inaccessible to non-members. |
| CLUSIANA Apr 28, 2011 2:38 PM CST |
| Hello Zuzu, thank you to let me know. The link is on a cubits open to visitors. I do not understand and I am going to put the pics here. I am planning to add some very interesting roses in the database this year as soon as I can. Come along and take a walk in a French garden~~Click here for Specie Tulips and other bulbs. Click here to Clusiana Primula Thread~~Click here for Clusiana Beautiful Irises thread |
Name: Toni Denver Metro (Zone 5a) Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Skiekitty Apr 28, 2011 2:49 PM CST |
Clusiana - I clicked on the Tulip cubit in your sig.. and the forum is basically blank? I love tulips, but they don't seem to love me.  And I can't wait to see your gorgeous roses! You need to start a thread on 'em!!Roses are one of my passions! Just opened, my Etsy shop (to fund my rose hobby)! http://www.etsy.com/shop/Tweet... |
| CLUSIANA Apr 28, 2011 3:15 PM CST |
| Sorry TonI. I have recently open a cubits about Tulipa genus and this one was open for one week to visitors (thought everybody could reach it), I open it for members so you can go there now but nex Sunday I will close it again as I do not want to upset anybody just share with people who really love tulips. This is the link for the first thread. Enjoy the three of them. http://cubits.org/Tulipa/threa... C. Come along and take a walk in a French garden~~Click here for Specie Tulips and other bulbs. Click here to Clusiana Primula Thread~~Click here for Clusiana Beautiful Irises thread |
Name: Angie Concord, NC (zone 7) Hemophobic Apr 28, 2011 6:15 PM CST |
| Beautiful roses, Clusiana. Toni, just don't wake me up, will you?  And be sure to leave something gorgeous that I don't have!Zu, I visited a nearby rose garden this afternoon and they had in their garden R. Love. A couple of years ago I posted a photo of a rose I have which I thought was Double Delight (it's one of those Big Lots roses that DH bought, planted and threw the tag away, so I have no clue what it really is, but red on top with white underneath). Anyhow, you suggested that it might be Love, but mine definitely does not look like the Love I saw this afternoon. Not criticizing, just FYI. That rose will remain a mystery, I guess, because I've since purchased Double Delight and it doesn't look like it either. Of course, my mystery rose has remained small, so maybe time will tell which one it is. Maybe not. Molineux is coming alive, finally, after suffering setback from those worms and Gertrude Jekyll is blooming, but not as robustly as last year. I didn't do any drastic pruning on anything, so I'm a little puzzled. Maybe she'll fill out, though. It's still early. Graham Thomas is putting forth lots of blooms and Geschwin's Orden is opening up. I'm going to have to move it, even though it's against a fence. It's really taking over and needs to be growing against a barn or a huge arbor. Really beautiful rose, though. I think that if ever a mortal heard the voice of God it would be in a garden at the cool of the day. ~F. Frankfort Moore, A Garden of Peace |
Name: Zuzu Northern California (Zone 9a) zuzu Apr 28, 2011 8:35 PM CST |
| If it's any consolation, Angie, your "Angel Face" rose is much prettier than Angel Face. It has at least twice as many petals and the bloom is a beautiful shape. |
Name: Angie Concord, NC (zone 7) Hemophobic Apr 28, 2011 8:35 PM CST |
| She smells good, too! You know how much I love fragrant roses, Zu. I think that if ever a mortal heard the voice of God it would be in a garden at the cool of the day. ~F. Frankfort Moore, A Garden of Peace |
Name: Steve Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)    Steve812 Apr 29, 2011 2:52 PM CST |
| I have seen a few old roses whose petals form flowers much like the "Angels Face" above. It resembles several gallicas. Except for the prominent eye, popular Duc de Guiche is not far removed: http://www.rdrop.com/~paul/gal... Duc de Cambridge is close, too: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose... Even the foliage seems more typical of gallica to me than of a hybrid tea. Does it repeat? |
Name: Zuzu Northern California (Zone 9a) zuzu Apr 29, 2011 4:24 PM CST |
| Angel Face is a floribunda and that foliage doesn't look unlike floribunda foliage to me, so it could be a different floribunda, such as Magenta, for instance. http://cubits.org/roses/db/ros... Here's a very long shot, and if it were right, it would be a heck of a coincidence. For years I thought I had grown Angel Face in a certain spot. It quickly died, the way Angel Face always does in my neighborhood. Don't ask why, because it's a mystery, but no one in my neighborhood can grow Angel Face in the regular version, as a tree, or of the climbing variety. I managed to grow one all the way to the blooming stage last year, but it rapidly gave up the ghost afterward. Years later, a rose sprang up in that spot where Angel Face had died and it started putting out the most beautiful blooms -- tons of petals, just like your rose, Angie. It was subsequently identified as Lilac Dawn. http://cubits.org/roses/db/ros... |
Name: Porkpal Richmond, TX porkpal Apr 29, 2011 6:34 PM CST |
| I have killed at least three Angel Face plants. The one I have now is only a year old, but so far it looks pretty good and has bloomed already this spring. The scent makes me keep trying. Porkpal |
Name: Toni Denver Metro (Zone 5a) Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Skiekitty Apr 29, 2011 6:45 PM CST |
| dammit, now I have to find that Lilac Dawn! FUDGE!! Roses are one of my passions! Just opened, my Etsy shop (to fund my rose hobby)! http://www.etsy.com/shop/Tweet... |
Name: Zuzu Northern California (Zone 9a) zuzu Apr 29, 2011 8:25 PM CST |
| I know! Isn't it fabulous? I had to buy a second one. I think I bought it from Burling, because it grew big in a hurry, but it might have been Vintage Gardens. |
Name: Angie Concord, NC (zone 7) Hemophobic Apr 30, 2011 7:30 AM CST |
| Steve: there is some repeat blooming on this rose. Maybe I can get another photo of a subsequent bloom and post it. I'll try today. I think that if ever a mortal heard the voice of God it would be in a garden at the cool of the day. ~F. Frankfort Moore, A Garden of Peace |
Name: Steve Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b) Steve812 Apr 30, 2011 10:22 AM CST |
| I guess if it repeats at all it cannot be a gallica. There appears to be a dullness to the foliage and paleness of color that seems different from the sheen and touch of purple found on most modern roses. That's what makes me think it is closely related to gallicas. The shape of the flower seems similar to Tradescant in your photo. Wondering if there's any chance it is a David Austin rose. For example, Lady of Megginch produces flowers about that shade of magenta. http://gwinnettrose.org/Roseof... http://www.helpmefind.com/rose... But I suppose it could be any of hundreds of hybrid perpetuals. Or maybe it is just Angel Face - or a sport of that rose. In my garden here, climbing Angel Face lasted one season and died, having produced but a single rose. I detected no fragrance, but then it was a foot off the ground and I didn't kneel. Right now the scentless, soulless Chevy Chase occupies that ground. |
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