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Jun 21, 2020 6:31 PM CST
Name: Melissa Hopper
St. Helens, Or (Zone 8a)
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OK, here we go. For what's its worth.

Here is my Killer.

It is in an old roasting pan with holes drilled in the bottom for drainage. The soil is a mixture of Miracle Grow Moisture Control, #2 chicken grit and perlite. It is in the sun from around 9 am to 4 pm. If the weather gets real hot, i will water about every 3rd day. Other than that I just let the Oregon rain handle it for me.


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Jun 21, 2020 8:13 PM CST
Name: AnnMarie
Between Chicago and Joliet (Zone 5b)
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Hello,

My 'Killer' plants have recently changed color. Our weather jumped to 80-90 F and a week without precipitation. Yesterday, it rained. They get filtered weak light in the morning to strong filtered light in the evening. NW area of garden under the canopy of an Austrian Pine (Pinus nigra) that has branches trimmed up to 6ft. A couple weeks ago, they were very black. These are 1 year old plants (original purchased at Lowes as 'Killer' on the tag) rooted from last year's offsets. Planted In a shallow glazed terra cotta pot. Planted with my oldest compost mixed with sand, pea gravel, tiny red lava rock, and a touch of horticultural charcoal, and some partly composted small pine bark mulch. Topped with leftover landscaping material. Mother plant is two-headed and flowering, removed from original dish. My plants that are not two headed are too rough looking to photo right now. I let the rain water this pot.

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04 May 2020, before I removed the mother.
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Jun 22, 2020 7:48 AM CST
Name: Sharon Ward
New Mexico (Zone 7a)
Love these photos. What great color. I do have one semp labeled NOID/Killer? The form is similar, but totally green so I will not submit. Hopefully I will have one at some point as I think it is very attractive.
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Jun 22, 2020 8:00 AM CST
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Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Killer photo taken in April of 2013 in Kevin Vaughn's garden. original soil, a clay but with very good drainage. Full sun


Photo taken in my garden March 2014, sandy loam compost mix, full sun exposure but during our very rainy spring.
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My garden June 2013, sandy loam compost mix, chicken grit. Full sun
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August 2013, sandy loam compost mix and chicken grit, full sun.
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Jun 22, 2020 1:10 PM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Lynn,

Actually my 'Killer' is in a bed with original soil, a clay but with very good drainage. It's in that weird "feature" that the previous owner installed and I have been trying to hide!

It has great color in that bed so I've left it there.

Kevin
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Jun 22, 2020 4:46 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Thanks for the update on the soil Kevin
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Jun 23, 2020 12:01 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann
Washington State (Zone 7a)
Sempervivums
Great photos everyone
Killer i can do. Will photograph tomorrow.
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Jun 23, 2020 10:59 PM CST
Name: Jo Ann
Washington State (Zone 7a)
Sempervivums
Ok here is my Killer in great need of a new bigger pot or division which will probably happen after bloom. The soil is 1/3 composted bark,1/3 sandy topsoil and 1/3 pumice. It gets full light inside the greenhouse. No shade anywhere. The photo is overexposed which is something my phone does often The tips of the leaves are really green not yellow. It's probably a bit dry, as when the pots get this full it is hard to get water to the roots.
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Jun 24, 2020 7:28 AM CST
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Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Very nice Jo Ann. Who will you cross it with?
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Jun 24, 2020 4:33 PM CST
Name: Sharen
Hollidaysburg PA (Zone 6b)
Hey, I have this one!
Mine was an overwatered greenhouse diva.
Pot grown (for now) in a mix of cactus soil, sand , a local potting mix and a generous dollop of chicken grit.


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Jun 25, 2020 12:12 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann
Washington State (Zone 7a)
Sempervivums
I am still thinking about that one Lynn. My Killer seedlings from 2018 are a huge disapointment.
I actually threw a bunch of then out already. Such washed out colors and low leaf count...not a good combo. I only realized it was going to flower a couple of days ago. I'll think on it.
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Jun 25, 2020 8:59 AM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Jo Ann,

Wow that is weird as so many of the ''Killer' seedlings are the stars of my line and I have the F3 seedlingof selfing it that is REALLY bright. The F4 are lined out! Of course not every one was good. The ones UI named were selected out of several hundred babies.

Kevin
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Jun 25, 2020 10:45 AM CST
Name: Nathaniel
IN (Zone 6b)
Here are my 2 'Killer'
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The front gets way more sun. I think a little shade cloth would it it well.
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Jun 25, 2020 11:22 AM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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Photo taken very early summer, June 2020 potted with EB Stone cactus mix with added horticulture sand and minus rock 1/4" dressing. Exposure is northern morning sun on covered deck. Rainwater by hand or moving pot into rain. No fertilizer.
Mother rosette was acquired at Kevin Vaughn's during my first visit to the 2014 Hybridizing Clinic. Main rosette did not get it's first offset until 2016. Mother rosette pictured is at least 6 years old and several offsets have appeared sporadically over 4 years.
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Jun 25, 2020 11:28 AM CST
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Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Wow, wild variance in coloring depending on location and growing conditions.
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Jun 25, 2020 11:37 AM CST
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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Nice one Sharen! It sounds like a good potting mix for it and the addition of the ever important chick grit on top. I like the red in the middle but of course with semps that could change!
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Jun 25, 2020 12:29 PM CST
Name: Sharen
Hollidaysburg PA (Zone 6b)
Thanks Connie
Chick grit is wonderful. I never thought of using it before I read about it here. It is perfect for my indoor quick drainage mix too. I just picked up 2 big bags of it and a bottle of quick start a couple days ago. Good advice.

The plant is still recovering from no winter dormancy. A couple of the greenhouse plants I bought are starting to look correct after a couple months in wild. I'll be curious what this one will look like next year.
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Jun 26, 2020 1:19 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann
Washington State (Zone 7a)
Sempervivums
Kevin
I was very surprised at the killer offspring too since I even put it together with other darks. That was 2 years ago. Last year it went together with Gold Nugget. It was a case of using what ever was blooming at the same time. Nothing conclusive on that yet. Seedlings are still small.
But now I have the chance to try again and I do have a rather large Jungle Shadows looking for a partner but I seem to recall that you did that cross some time ago ? Might be reinventing the wheel. On the other hand it might be interesting to see what I get out of the same cross that you did years ago using a modified Polly Bishop Method and then to see what I select from the seedlings.
There are some other possibilities too
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Jun 26, 2020 9:48 PM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Jo Ann,

Yes the Killer X Jungle Shadows cross gave me Borscht, Patent Leather Shoes and Watermark King so that was a great cross. I'm betting you could get some more good ones too.

Kevin
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Jun 26, 2020 9:54 PM CST
Name: Jo Ann
Washington State (Zone 7a)
Sempervivums
Thanks Kevin
I just might do it as the bloom stalks are at very nearly the same development and that is ,it seems, a big part of the game.
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