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Name: AnnMarie
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Jun 22, 2020 1:12 PM CST
Two Heads Are Better Than One:

Anybody else have plants that split into two and make offsets? My 'Killer' and NoID cf. 'Jungle Fires'. Only these two varieties have split heads in my garden. That pseudo-'Jungle Fires' NoID is about to go minty green and lose most of the red. I have never seen this color change and two heads in a plant until last year. I put every freaky offset in a growing cell.


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What do we call this? Schizo- + another word? Split crown? Split head? Two-heads? Not polycephaly, that is more than two heads.


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Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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Jun 22, 2020 1:37 PM CST
Ann Marie,

It's just "very short stolons". Sometimes you get a bunch embedded along the periphery, sometimes in the center, where it's generally just a couple rosettes.

'Jungle Shadows' does do this and some of the seedlings from it do it too. Generally there are multiple good rosettes the next season from this odd occurrence.

Kevin.

Name: AnnMarie
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Jun 23, 2020 10:01 AM CST
Thank you very much for the explanation. I find this fascinating. I do like this occurrence.
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Name: Melissa Hopper
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MelissaHopper
Jun 23, 2020 2:15 PM CST
I have had this happen with Red Lion and Grammens.
Name: AnnMarie
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Jun 23, 2020 9:06 PM CST
Melissa Hopper,

Thanks. I have those two so I will keep an eye on them.

Take care.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 25, 2020 6:45 PM CST

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I have several doing the same thing this year. Persephone did it last year and is absolutely huge this year. I just left it. I think both rosettes are going to bloom.
Name: AnnMarie
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Jun 25, 2020 11:36 PM CST
valleylynn said:I have several doing the same thing this year. Persephone did it last year and is absolutely huge this year. I just left it. I think both rosettes are going to bloom.


Oh cool. I been looking for that cultivar! She is from my favorite story about the seasons. Thanks for sharing that yours did this thing. Both of the two heads on my 'Killer' mother are also getting ready to bloom.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 26, 2020 8:36 AM CST

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AnnMarie, I do have a couple of 'Persephone' yearlings looking for a new home. Smiling
I really wanted to bring the huge double rosette to the new place, but sadly it just would take up a lot of real estate that I don't have at in Oregon City. It makes beautiful rosettes of medium to large size, until a rosette decides to bloom, then it becomes huge. I have offsets out in the new bed.
Name: AnnMarie
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Jun 26, 2020 10:59 AM CST
I would love to home 'Persephone'! Let's figure something out.

So, this morning, one of my two-headed plants of 'Killer' has a third one on the way, maybe. I will photo later, rainy.


I think this is why I got into heuffelii very much this year. Thinking

Three heads:

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Name: AnnMarie
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Sempervivoides
Jun 27, 2020 1:11 PM CST
Hello,

Found this in the 'Citrus Sunrise'
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 27, 2020 4:15 PM CST

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Oh my, looks like we are having a run on two headed rosettes this year. Blinking
Name: Nathaniel
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Jun 28, 2020 9:17 PM CST
I've saw this on my 'gold nuggest' offset this year.
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valleylynn
Jun 28, 2020 9:21 PM CST

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Nathaniel, photo, please. Big Grin
Name: AnnMarie
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Sempervivoides
Jul 2, 2020 11:25 PM CST
Today I received a nice tiny two headed sempervivum all trimmed. Thinking Hilarious! Thank You!

Add another to the list.

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JesseInCT
Jul 3, 2020 7:13 PM CST
I have a NOID which I believe is Faramir that has the "short stolons" thing going on this year.




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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jul 4, 2020 8:38 AM CST

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A close knit family. Smiling
Name: AnnMarie
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Jul 5, 2020 5:32 PM CST
Found a Chick Charms plant doing it in my Tutti-Fruitti sempervivum bowl I made last year.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jul 5, 2020 9:01 PM CST

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They seem to be popping up every where this year.
Name: AnnMarie
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Jul 16, 2020 12:10 PM CST
My potted Chick Charms 'Director Jacobs'
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jul 16, 2020 6:46 PM CST

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So interesting to see these.

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