Cactus and Succulents forum→Brought the succulents in. How is my lighting?

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Name: Alice
Fort Worth (Zone 8a)
Gypsi
Jun 22, 2020 10:20 PM CST
we've been getting rain, temps over 90, so far I hadn't lost a bunch of plants, had them on the porch with morning light and a tiny bit of afternoon, but the sideways rain watered this week, and more is coming tonight.

So I brought them in. The burros tail down in the window is much farther from the light, that is a south window, perhaps these will do ok? Timer is set for 9 hours,
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Name: Alice
Fort Worth (Zone 8a)
Gypsi
Sep 25, 2020 9:44 PM CST
I don't think the lighting was ever adequate. Fall has come, the succulents are back outside, and those days of little bitty individual pots are gone. I'll put shadecloth up and leave them out next year. I do have several babies that started in the little individual pots though
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Name: Alice
Fort Worth (Zone 8a)
Gypsi
Nov 1, 2020 10:29 PM CST
well I learned that succulents freeze so they are back in the house. and I have lost the labels that said what they were, maybe on Dave's Garden I could find my post that ID'd them, but never on here, the chat is way too long.

This one looks really funny, and I can't remember its name. I bought it in May of 2020 or after, and it was from Africa. It got leggy in the house this summer, it got variegated coloring outside and still has it now that it is back indoors.

The odd coloring on the top leaves, is this an approaching bloom?
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Name: Baja
Baja California (Zone 11b)
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Baja_Costero
Nov 1, 2020 11:43 PM CST

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Looks like a variegated Crassula perforata, and the variegation sometimes comes and goes (looks like it's coming on the new growth). Usually those plants are bigger (taller) before they flower, and I don't think this is the right season. The flowers are terminal (though stems will usually branch below the inflorescence afterwards).
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hlutzow
Nov 2, 2020 7:10 PM CST
Gypsi said:I don't think the lighting was ever adequate. Fall has come, the succulents are back outside, and those days of little bitty individual pots are gone. I'll put shadecloth up and leave them out next year. I do have several babies that started in the little individual pots though
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You could lower the lights closer to the plants to increase the amount of light reaching the plants. When I had succulents inside under grow lights, the lights were never more than 10-12 inches from the tops of the plants. It is staggering how fast the lux drops with each inch of distance.
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Name: Alice
Fort Worth (Zone 8a)
Gypsi
Nov 2, 2020 10:40 PM CST
they are back outside this week, with our temps in the 70s and dry weather, but I will lower the light when I bring them back in. Thank you
Name: Alice
Fort Worth (Zone 8a)
Gypsi
Nov 11, 2020 8:16 PM CST
I lowered the lighting down to about 10 inches above the top trays


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Name: Ed
Georgetown, Tx (Zone 8b)
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herrwood
Nov 11, 2020 10:16 PM CST
I have recently began propergating some succentlents after a few years in a new location.
Just a few plants under a flurosent bulb and my meter was showing about 6400 lux.
Hopes this helps Confused , I am not rral good at lighting
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Name: Alice
Fort Worth (Zone 8a)
Gypsi
Nov 12, 2020 8:52 AM CST
so maybe I should order a light meter?
Name: cheapskate gardener
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hlutzow
Nov 12, 2020 9:05 AM CST
Gypsi said:so maybe I should order a light meter?


There are some free light meter apps. It depends on how exact you want your measurements to be.
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Name: Baja
Baja California (Zone 11b)
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Baja_Costero
Nov 12, 2020 10:09 AM CST

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I bought a pretty basic light meter (seem to remember it cost about $10) and found it useful to compare lighting in different situations.
Name: Alice
Fort Worth (Zone 8a)
Gypsi
Nov 15, 2020 3:05 PM CST
I have a light meter. where the succulents are, under fluorescent only because window frame is shading, 5500 lux
Where the south sun plus fluorescent, 23100 lux.

This is beyond my ability to interpret, but what the meter says, when I have it set at 50,000
Name: Baja
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Baja_Costero
Nov 15, 2020 4:54 PM CST

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When I was measuring light in different locations, I used direct outdoor sun (however many lux around midday) as a baseline for comparison, and judged relative to that, rather than relying on an absolute number. Brightest shade (with lots of reflected/diffused light) worked out to be about 15-20% of that figure, and served as my functional minimum for plants in other places. Basically I extrapolated my knowledge of where plants do best in bright, sunny locations and applied that elsewhere. Make sure you measure the intensity at the level of the leaves, not some other distance from the source. It sounds like you are right at the lower boundary of what might be reasonable. More light probably would not hurt.

Hopefully this helps. Smiling if nothing else, you have a point of comparison for where you go from here.
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Name: Alice
Fort Worth (Zone 8a)
Gypsi
Nov 16, 2020 10:04 AM CST
Meter was on soil in succulent pot, the window frame of course migrates as the sun crosses my south window. I'll play with this a bit. The plants down on the windowsill in this window actually do pretty well and receive almost no supplemental light from the fixture

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