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May 22, 2011 7:11 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
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If you're not a lover of russet roses, you won't be very excited about this one, but I think it might be the most interesting rose I've seen in years.

When it was offered in the Edmund's catalog this year, I didn't even think of buying it because their picture and description made it sound like one of those blackish-red roses, which I already have in abundance.

Besides, I sort of didn't want it on principle, because Edmund's had given it a new name and was pretending it was a 2012 rose, even though it has been available for two years already as Eddy Mitchell and Garden Director Bartje Miller. That merchandising ploy, for which Heirloom is so famous, really irritates me.

Sue went to Regan's a few days ago, however, and called me from there in great excitement because the rose is so much more beautiful than we had thought. She bought me one and brought it over the same day, and I flipped! I just love it!

HMF describes the rose as a red blend, dark red with a yellow reverse. The rose actually isn't red at all. It's a dark russet and the reverse is creamy beige.



I'm so excited about posting these photos that I'm even going to include the one my stupid foot crept into:

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May 22, 2011 9:41 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Wow!! That is a beautiful rose!!!
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May 23, 2011 9:55 AM CST
Richmond TX (Zone 9a)
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I'm in love w/ it. I like russets thou I only have Hot cocoa and Rusty. I guess those are russets, right?

I have been focusing on the mauve/lavender/silver/purple roses for my blue bed. I just got my RU order,which was awesome with Natasha Monet and Ebb Tide in it. The plants are big enough that I can safely plant directly inground right now. Ebb Tide was an afterthought, I s/h been able to find that one locally, but by the time I decided I could use it, it was sold out.
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May 23, 2011 10:37 AM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
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Voss - You'll love those. I'd recommend also the following:

BlueGirl (duh)
Blue Skies
Singin' the Blues
Shocking Blue
Rhapsody in Blue
Sterling Silver
Stainless Steel
Heirloom
Clair de Lune
Silver Star
Neptune
Sweetness
English Perfume
Angel Face
Perfume Melody
Blueberry Hill
Florence de Lattre
Star of the Nile
Silver Shadows
Lady X
Royal Amthyst
Fragrant Plum
Moonlight Magic (if you can find it anywhere)

uhhhhhhh.. hmm.. those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I have all except Moonlight Magic & Neptune (will probably get a new Neptune this year) and my Clair de Lune didn't survive the winter. Sad Sad Sad I know there's a ton more.. just can't think right now. LOL (EDIT: had to add a couple of more that I just remembered...)
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May 23, 2011 1:26 PM CST
Richmond TX (Zone 9a)
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Kitty, I was aware, from your postings, that you loved the mauve/lilacs too. You are my go to person when I need to find out the scoop on this color. which one is your absolute fave and why. Blue for you, which I got from Cliff, is divine. I plan to root some next fall so I can build a large hedge of it.
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May 23, 2011 2:15 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
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oh, damn, forgot Enchanted Evening, Wild Blue Yonder, & Outta the Blue. Oh, and Blue Bayou. My Laguna Freelander didn't survive and never bloomed, so never got a picture of it. And also have Stephen's Big Purple.

That Blue For You (http://www.helpmefind.com/rose...) is simply scrumptious! Not as dark as Rhapsody in Blue (here's my picture http://cubits.org/roses/db/ros...), but darker than Blueberry Hill (my picture http://cubits.org/roses/thread...). If you manage to root 'em, I'd buy one or two from ya. Smiling Ordering from Vintage is just so expensive.. $22 for a band and then $17 for shipping? bleh.
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May 23, 2011 2:35 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Salvias Garden Procrastinator Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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dammit, the more I read other people's threads, the more I get my brain jarred to remind myself of what I have. I also have Heinrich Karsch, Vineyard Song, Vista, Baby Faraux, International News Tribune....Winter Magic... uh.. LOL braindead!!!
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May 23, 2011 3:53 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Pocono Mountains, PA
I think this is more beautiful than the pictures Edmunds is using. I LOVE the russet and the coffee colored roses.

Make sure to leave room for vineyard song, kitty. It sends long, sprawling canes. This is its second year in my garden. It has 6' canes and lots of buds. It would be beautiful cascading on a slight slope - I am tempted by the slope across the sidewalk - but it may be a challenge to keep it in bounds where planted. Reviews said 3' tall. I guess I assumed 3' high or less. Like a floribunda. Wrong. At least it is healthy and has pretty little flowers. It is near baby blanket, which wants to be a queen size quilt. I don't want to cut off so many buds, so I will wait until after the spring flush before cutting them back.

There aren't many rose gardeners in this area. I had no idea that roses could get so big in areas with winters like ours.
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May 23, 2011 9:36 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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They must love you!
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May 23, 2011 9:55 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Pocono Mountains, PA
I am not sure if they love me or the manure, coffee grounds and egg shells I feed them. I know that I love them!

I have to get better at planning and pruning. We have been having so much rain that everything is overgrown. I run out in between showers to plant and weed. (Yes, everything is overgrown and I am still planting. That is my special kind of crazy.)

I am beginning to understand why zuzu grows mostly hybrid teas. Their form is more uniform - in theory anyway.
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May 23, 2011 10:47 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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Yes, Andi, you're absolutely right. I grow them because I know what to expect as far as dimensions are concerned. I can plant them just a couple of feet apart and have lots of variety in a small space. I occasionally take out an OGR and plant 5 or 6 different modern roses in its place.
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May 24, 2011 6:51 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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And I'm doing the opposite: I've found I can replace several dead Hybrid Teas with just one out-of-control Old Garden Rose. Eventually I will even learn not to try to grow Hybrid Teas - maybe. (They're so pretty!)
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May 24, 2011 5:07 PM CST
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
Sunset Zone 15
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I missed this thread yesterday because I went to visit my Mom and help her with moving some big pots around and planting a few things.
I love your shots of that new rose Zuzu! I told you it was super unique and fabulous looking, so different really from anything else.
We also went to the Heritage and Municipal rose gardens and I for sure want the new Adobe Sunrise, check out all the photos I added to HMF
http://www.helpmefind.com/gard...
we need an entry for it to as well as the new Walking On Sunshine
http://www.helpmefind.com/gard...
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May 24, 2011 7:33 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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Your wish is my command, dear Sue.

Here's Adobe Sunrise:

http://cubits.org/roses/db/ros...

Here's Walking on Sunshine:

http://cubits.org/roses/db/ros...

I love having you do my shopping for me. Dark Night is the most extraordinary rose I've seen in years. Thanks again.
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May 24, 2011 8:19 PM CST
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I knew it was when I first saw it that you would love it!
Thanks for the database entries too.
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May 25, 2011 11:14 AM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Pocono Mountains, PA
Both are very pretty. I especially like Adobe Sunset. Meilland has such beautiful roses. I like the slight pink tinge on Walking on Sunshine. The soft yellow would blend well with other roses.

It is wonderful to get to see such good pictures of the new roses. I don't get to see many roses in the local stores, except red and pink knockouts.
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May 25, 2011 11:38 AM CST
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I was really impressed with Walking on Sunshine Andi! Reminded me a bit of Julia Child (an excellent rose!) but with a bit more variations in coloring, like the pink edges like you mentioned plus the blooms are bigger.
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