Daylilies forum: Kwanso lilies became ditch lilies

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JoanneStratton
Jun 25, 2020 4:23 PM CST
I have had beautiful kwanso lilies for 9-10 years, that I took from a historical Victorian home's overgrown yard in Philadelphia. This year for the first time they look like regular ditch lilies. The lilies I have share with others have all also come up that way. Why? Mild winter?
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sallyg
Jun 25, 2020 6:03 PM CST
Kwanso is just a form of ditch lily; maybe you knew that.
Maybe a piece of original form of ditch lily was in there and finally got big enough to bloom.
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Deebie
Jun 25, 2020 6:08 PM CST
Single vs. double bloom, if it's the same plant.
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SunriseSide
Jun 25, 2020 7:46 PM CST
'Kwanso' looks like this when it singles
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JoanneStratton
Jun 25, 2020 9:42 PM CST
The two pictures I posted are the same plant. It was divided three years ago. I have some in the front yard, morning sun, and some in the backyard, full sun. Both have changed, this year only. My niece has part if this plant, three years now, same result this year alone. My daughter who lives in MD has the same plant, divided three years ago. She has the same outcome this year for the first time. It seems very coincidental that the flowers in all locations have changed this year, after beautiful triple flowers for years prior, in all locations. That's why I thought it might be the mild winter. We had frost the day after Mother's Day here in PA, but I don't think that MD did.
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sooby
Jun 26, 2020 4:53 AM CST
Do the single flowers have normal-looking pistils? Actually I think your plant may be 'Flore Pleno' rather than 'Kwanso' but both are variants of Hemerocallis fulva.
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JoanneStratton
Jun 26, 2020 11:24 AM CST
These two flowers are from the same exact plant in my back yard, a year apart.
One is from last June. I DO NOT see normal pistils.
The other is from today, I DO see normal pistals.
I also have the same situation with the plant in the front yard.


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Seedfork
Jun 26, 2020 2:25 PM CST
I find the photos very interesting, I also find it very odd all those different plants would be having the same odd behavior. I will be very interested when an answer is found.
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sallyg
Jun 26, 2020 4:26 PM CST
Very strange indeed!!
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Deryll
Jun 27, 2020 9:51 AM CST
I have what I was told is Kwanso/ Kwanzo, and it has variegated leaves with an occasional all green plant.
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Frillylily
Jun 27, 2020 12:35 PM CST
Deebie said:Single vs. double bloom, if it's the same plant.


I have the dbl one for years and have never seen a single bloom on it. I do have some dl that are supposed to be double but also have singles ones or sometimes blooms with like one extra little piece that grows out the middle, but not fully double. I just always assumed this one was 100% double, since all mine are. Shrug!
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touchofsky
Jun 27, 2020 3:52 PM CST
Deryll said:I have what I was told is Kwanso/ Kwanzo, and it has variegated leaves with an occasional all green plant.
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It is Variegated Kwanso. I love that one, the foliage is gorgeous! Great picture of it, too, Deryll.
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Variegated Kwanso')
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JoanneStratton
Jun 29, 2020 10:59 AM CST
Great news for me! The lily plant in the back garden just blessed me with two Kwanso (or Flore Pleno) lilies. The lily plant in the front garden is still just regular ditch lilies. I only planted the Kwanso in the back garden, but got ditch lilies and Kwanso.
Should I pull the section of the plant that produced the ditch lilies?
Can you tell from the pictures if I have Kwanso or Flore Pleno lilies? Thanks!
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janielouy
Jul 12, 2020 10:43 AM CST
I am wondering the same thing!!! I seem to have a large clump of singles where there used to be lots of doubles. The doubles bloom later. Love the doubles but you cannot seem to get rid of the singles "ditch lilies".
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sallyg
Jul 12, 2020 11:32 AM CST
I would think following a single flower down and ripping out all the leaves with it, over time, every time, would decrease the singles. Shrug! without digging EVERYTHING up to separate them.
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SunriseSide
Jul 12, 2020 3:16 PM CST
'Europa' and 'Kwanso' both will sprout from root runner fragments if you leave any.
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Charlemagne
Jul 22, 2020 3:11 PM CST
If you find someone who will sell you a DF of ditch lily for $50 it will not multiply or spread and that's the truth!

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BarnyQ
Jul 23, 2020 5:28 PM CST
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