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Jun 26, 2020 11:07 AM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
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Could we please have a discussion comparing Romantic Evening, Strut, Wild Wings, Shocker, Velvet Voyage, Dangerous Mood and any other similar bicolors having lavender or orchid up top, and black falls.

How many have you compared in person? Favorites? Vigor/ability to form a good clump? Consistently good bloom form? Candelabra branching? Floriferousness? Definite, bright contrast between standards and falls. Clarity of color.
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Jun 26, 2020 11:46 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I have Romantic Evening, and Strut, none of the others. Of the two, RE blooms every year, Strut blooms once in a while, I moved it to a better place, and it still only blooms once in 2 to 3 years. This is in my zone, however, not sure if a warmer zone would make Strut perform better or not.
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Jun 26, 2020 6:21 PM CST
Name: Laurie
southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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I ordered Shocker this year. I don't have any others. I'll be interested to hear comments, too.
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Jun 26, 2020 8:06 PM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
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Laurie, I think that judging from the only two pictures I can find of Shocker, it's a real pretty one! I really like the contrast between the light wysteria lavender standards and the dark velvety falls. I hope it blooms for you next spring, because I'd really like to see and hear more about it.
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Jun 28, 2020 11:27 AM CST
Name: Pam
Pennsylvania
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Daisy, I have Wild Wings, Dangerous Mood and Romantic Evening. While I like the colors on all three. none of them grow well here in SE PA. They each bloom yearly but with very little increase. I have had them for several years so I guess they are doing well enough by staying alive that long.
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Jun 28, 2020 11:59 AM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
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Pam, that's good information, given that I'm not so very far away from you. Thanks!

So, Pam, tell us the names of some of your most vigorous and favorite cultivars, regardless of whether they are in this color group. Yeah, I know I am breaking my own topic.
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Jun 28, 2020 5:08 PM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
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Jumping in with comment that Habit bloomed for the first time in several years this year. It was beautiful! Looking forward to how it does 2021.

I like this color combo, too, Daisy and have ordered Shocker this year.

You mentioned clarity of color. I prefer the wisteria blue in the standards, with
a more navy blue on the falls, if possible.
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Jun 28, 2020 5:19 PM CST
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
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ghio m/l

johnson m/l

: keppel e/m

schreiner e mid

johnson e

schreiner m/l

just did this little exercise, daisy. i was unfamiliar with some of the the cultivars listed and was curious. i don't grow any of them and was hoping to find an early one amongst them.

i was happy to find several on the list. for me, on color and form, is a toss up between 're' and 'ww'. altho' i have 'dm, on a tentative wish list. i have to say they're all beautiful and if i would have to rank on color alone? strut would be 6. Rolling my eyes.
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Jun 28, 2020 6:07 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Sharp Dressed Man is an amazing grower and performer here.
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Jun 28, 2020 6:23 PM CST
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
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Thumb of 2020-06-29/shizen/a329d3 have you considered 'midnight seas'? it's a strong performer and increaser for me.
Thumb of 2020-06-29/shizen/792a7b i like this one, too. i 'm pretty sure this is my photo last year for 'naughty nights'
Thumb of 2020-06-29/shizen/283b3f 'by jeeves' does really well for me, too, and has an extra bonus of a ring around the outer edge of the falls.
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Jun 28, 2020 8:26 PM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
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Daphne, thanks for the illustrations!

And here is an illustration of Jan's "Habit."



I do like the lighter wisteria blue standards in contrast with the dark falls. I already have Sharp Dressed Man, which had its maiden bloom for me this year. But as yet it has not wowed me. It needs time to develop in my garden.
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Jun 28, 2020 8:40 PM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
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Just from the above photos, I'd have to say I'm most partial to RE, WW, Shocker, and Habit. Midnight is a pretty color combo, but I prefer standards that don't tip out at the top, which all the photos for Midnight in the database indicate they do. That's just a personal form preference of mine, along with color clarity.
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Jun 28, 2020 11:38 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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'Romantic Evening' and 'Sharp Dressed Man' have been very good here too.

I also like 'Visiting Royalty'


And 'Visual Intrigue' has been excellent, and is a reliable rebloomer.
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Jun 29, 2020 1:46 AM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
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Sherry, I really like that photo of Visiting Royalty. Seems also like everyone likes Romantic Evening!
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Jun 29, 2020 8:46 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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Romantic Evening really makes a statement in full bloom..

Storm Rider is a good one too...
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Jun 30, 2020 7:01 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Storm rider is a good grower here too.
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Jun 30, 2020 9:46 AM CST
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Jun 30, 2020 10:14 AM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
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So many pretty ones!
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Jun 30, 2020 2:09 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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Strut does no better at blooming for me in the south than it does for Tom up in Wisconsin. Mister Three Wiggle does well though.
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Jul 2, 2020 10:52 AM CST
Name: Yvonne
Long Island (Zone 7a)
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I have actually been looking at this type of color combination as well, and had no idea how many there were! I don't see any mention of Black Magic Woman, which is similar to Sharp Dressed Man.

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