Daylilies forum: Variations and mutations

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Lake Village, IN zone 5b
FarminginPink
Jul 8, 2020 1:50 PM CST
I tip my hat to you. I have become obsessed with cataloging my DL. Could these 3 all be the same variety and just differ with their growing location (amount of sunlight, slight difference in soil etc) They all came from a group that a friend and I chose at a local daylily farm about 20 years ago. I lost interest in them for awhile and they just survived, got moved around and divided occasionally. In August of 2018 I got serious about them, divided and tagged several and started taking care of them. Now it seems like I have more varieties than I did to begin with (20 years ago) I take pictures and write descriptions etc. and try to decide where all a certain variety is growing in my large yard with several different flower beds. So over the years how much mutation, cross pollination with reproduction etc could I have had? I have come to this site to research different named varieties and there seems to be a lot of variation between different members pics of the same variety. (Sorry the pics aren't better)
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Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Jul 8, 2020 3:31 PM CST
In my opinion it is unlikely that the three daylilies in the photos are the same variety. I doubt that growing conditions could be different enough to cause the differences in the flowers on the same day.

Mutations are too rare to account for three different daylilies to be produced from one daylily over 20 years.

For cross-pollinations to produce different seedlings the original daylilies would have had to set pods and the pods allowed to open and drop their seeds. Do you remember pods on the original daylilies over the years? Did you remove the flowers as they finished?
Maurice
Lake Village, IN zone 5b
FarminginPink
Jul 8, 2020 5:19 PM CST
During the neglected years I did not remove flowers and I do remember seeing seed pods. I've read posts about intentionally crossing but didn't know how easily they would cross pollinate by themselves.
Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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touchofsky
Jul 8, 2020 5:42 PM CST
I have found seedlings growing near my named varieties. So they could be seedlings.
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Name: Daniel Erdy
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 8, 2020 7:42 PM CST
I agree seedlings
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Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Jul 9, 2020 11:30 AM CST
Some daylilies are naturally pollinated easily and others aren't. Since you saw pods I expect that there are chance seedlings from seeds dropped from pods in the mix of plants.
Maurice

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