Roses forum→Zone 9 Ventura County, CA and heat

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Ventura County, California
Zone 10 Ventura County, CA
oakslesly
Jul 12, 2020 12:14 PM CST
Anyone grow fragrant, good cutting roses in the heat of zone 9? Disease resistance would be a great trait, too. Really would appreciate suggestions.
Thank you
Always seeking recommendations and advice. I welcome suggestions for heat loving roses with great scent, disease resistance, and long vase life.
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ctcarol
Jul 13, 2020 12:55 PM CST
You might get more answers if you ask on the Rose forum. There are several rose growers in that area.
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jerijen
Jul 13, 2020 2:53 PM CST
Do you have a preference as to rose type? Most of my roses are "antiques" so I'm not "up" on Hybrid Teas and the like. But I do have a lot of them, and most are quite fragrant. We don't spray, so we don't keep roses that require it.

Today, I'm enjoying the intense green apple fragrance of 'Mel's Heritage'
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and the more modest fruity scent of 'Bishop Darlington'
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(Located in Camarillo, CA)

Ventura County, California
Zone 10 Ventura County, CA
oakslesly
Jul 13, 2020 3:56 PM CST
Thank you! I am a sucker for the David Austin type roses. The Romanticas and Delbards outperform my Austins which aren't doing well as cut flowers. I have installed umbrellas above some roses to shelter them from the afternoon sun. My constantly blooming roses are Osiana, Tournament of Roses, Pink Intuition, Penthouse, Yves Piaget, and Duet. Luckily my Chrysler Imperial and Mr. Lincoln are improving with the umbrella coverage. (Both have such amazing scents that I can't choose which one I prefer) Happily my most recent backyard plantings, Souer Emmanuelle and Princess Alexandra of Kent, are thriving with a few hours of shade. I thought I had planted Chartreuse de Palme, but I was sent the wrong rose. Anyone know where this rose can be purchased? It's very difficult to locate.

In the partial shade part of my front yard, Tamora, Ambridge Rose, Charles Rennie Macintosh, and Liv Tyler are almost always blooming. Bronze Star is in sun, next to Graham Thomas. Bronze Star is outperforming Graham Thomas to the point of me considering removing Graham Thomas. I cut back The McCartney Rose by about a third as it was a giant taking over everything around it. Time will tell if this was a wise move. Evelyn and Mary Rose are doing much better than usual. Olivia Rose Austin and Scelptur'd Isle both had a good spring flush, but not much since then. Close to them, The Ingenious Mr. Fairchild, is in constant bloom and sending out octopus shoots daily. My best Austin, hands down, is Wise Portia which has roots in the shade of the house's eaves, but leans into the sun with blooms. Fantastic color and lots and lots of long lasting roses. Highly recommend this rose if you can duplicate the growing situation. Pretty Jessica is next to Wise Portia and producing lots of blooms and healthy leaves. Next to Wise Portia on the other side, is Lover's Blush which is higher than my roof. It's doing well after it was cut back and cleaned out.

Complete duds--The Huntington Rose which is covered in very green and healthy growth without a rose in sight. Perhaps too much shade.
Mrs. Joseph Bonnaire is a complete rust magnet but might be suffering from too much shade also. (I cannot find any info on this rose so I don't know if it's prone to rust. Any data would be appreciated.)

Once again, suggestions for heat loving, scented, good cut roses are sought. Thank you.
Always seeking recommendations and advice. I welcome suggestions for heat loving roses with great scent, disease resistance, and long vase life.
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Orange County (Zone 10a)
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SoCalGardenNut
Jul 14, 2020 8:19 AM CST
I'm surprised that Liv Tyler is doing well for you, mine is terrible.
My suggestion for fragrant cut flower is Barbra Streisand, Simply Magnifiscent, Soft Whisper.
Here is picture of some Barbra Streisand, the purple flowers on the left.

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I try to grow everything, sometime not successful.
Ventura County, California
Zone 10 Ventura County, CA
oakslesly
Jul 14, 2020 10:54 AM CST
Thank you so much! I will follow your suggestions.
Liv Tyler is growing up into my Fuju persimmon tree so she receives a lot of shade. She blooms constantly and the roses are beautiful.
Thanks again.
Oakslesly
Always seeking recommendations and advice. I welcome suggestions for heat loving roses with great scent, disease resistance, and long vase life.
Name: Nola
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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NolaWis
Aug 9, 2020 7:05 AM CST
Oakslesly I purchased Chartreuse de Parme from Roses Unlimited own root last year.
(Zone 9b)
roseseek
Aug 20, 2020 9:32 PM CST
Are you familiar with Grace Rose Farm in Santa Ynez? She's approximately where Solvang is, where there is HEAT. She grows her roses with some shade from surrounding trees, but most get most of the day sun. She specializes in fragrant garden roses for florist use. You can browse her site and collections to see many of the varieties she grows organically and ships nationwide. If Grace can grow them in her heat and get well scented cut flowers from these varieties, they SHOULD be worthy of your consideration. BTW, she grows quite a few Austin roses. Enjoy!
https://www.gracerosefarm.com/...
Ventura County, California
Zone 10 Ventura County, CA
oakslesly
Aug 21, 2020 5:01 PM CST
Roseseek,
Thank you so so much for this suggestion. I will definitely check it out.
Always seeking recommendations and advice. I welcome suggestions for heat loving roses with great scent, disease resistance, and long vase life.

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