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Oct 27, 2012 1:07 PM CST
|This Clematis is a non vining bush that gets 3-4 ft. tall. It blooms most of the summer.|
Oct 27, 2012 1:13 PM CST
|Might be Fremont's Leatherflower (Clematis fremontii)|
Oct 27, 2012 1:17 PM CST
|What a sweet clematis. |
Here is another link. Clematis (Clematis fremontii)
Oct 27, 2012 2:00 PM CST
|Clematis crispa is also possible? |
It appears to flower for longer and later than Clematis fremontii.
Oct 27, 2012 3:01 PM CST
|It also gets taller than Clematis fremontii (up to 18"). |
Sue said hers gets 3 to 4 feet tall.
Oct 27, 2012 3:42 PM CST
|Clematis crispa is a vine, though.|
Oct 27, 2012 3:55 PM CST
|Thanks guys but I have fremontii and its not that, the flowers are fatter and it's a lot taller and the bloom time is different. This was still blooming until we got a hard frost. The foliage is also different than fremontii. I looked at the web sites and I don't think it's a crispa it doesn't vine and it isn't nearly as tall as it said the crispa is.|
Oct 27, 2012 5:29 PM CST
|Any clues such as where did the plant come from? We are thinking of species but it could be a hybrid.|
The form and height of Clematis pitcheri is similar, could be a cross with that? It has ribs.
Oct 27, 2012 6:02 PM CST
|Clematis viorna has many forms ..|
Crug Farm (plant hunters) say it's small and sub shrubby "for us".
Oct 27, 2012 6:34 PM CST
|I started the plant from seeds that I bought from an Alpline Wildflower catologue. It was a packet of Scottii and the other plants that I started from that packet looked like they were suppose to. But two plants were the one in the photo. He gathers seeds from the the wild so I have to assume that it is a species. The pictures of the viorna flower look very like it but viorna is also a vine and this is not.|
Oct 27, 2012 6:38 PM CST
|I wonder if you could send him a photo and have him ID it for sure? |
How long did it take for it to get that size from seed?
Oct 27, 2012 6:43 PM CST
|Lynn,I hadn't thought of sending him a photo, Thanks for the idea! I think it was four years ago that I started it but time flys so fast I don't remember for sure.|
Oct 27, 2012 6:46 PM CST
|He should be able to ID it for you, and would probably love seeing the results from his seed.|
Oct 28, 2012 5:35 AM CST
|Look at Clematis Buckland Beauty, I was also seeing a likeness to some hybrids of Clematis texensis. This is a cross between texensis and pitcheri! You might have a natural cross between species as it's grown from seed, or your supplier might have this plant, some crosses can come fairly true from seed.|
Does the seller have an online site we can check?
Oct 28, 2012 7:52 AM CST
|Thanks for your persistence Janet. The Buckland Beauty sounds and looks alot like this only the web page says it's over 10 ft. The seed place does have a email and I tried emailing him but I couldn't make our systems compatable and I couldn't get it sent. I'm not very techinally savvy. I have computer help coming today so I'll see if I can get an email sent.|
Oct 28, 2012 8:54 AM CST
|If you send a pic to the seed sourceman (is that a word?), also send him a photo of the true ones, so he can compare and know that you are not just nuts. For the unknown, send pics of every part of the plant if you have them. Closeups of leaves, leaf undersides, nodes(where the leaf connects to the stem, flower stem.|
This for all!
Everyone thinks that the flower tells all, but in fact usually not if you want an iron clad ID.
Oct 28, 2012 9:16 AM CST
The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched -- they must be felt with the heart. ~ Helen Keller
Oct 28, 2012 9:40 AM CST
|Sue, just copy and paste his email address into your own email program. That will work.|
Oct 29, 2012 8:09 AM CST
|Possibly Clematis "Rooguchi" There are a number of spellings..Roguchi, Rouguchi...but, the pics and the size and color all seem right...|
This plant is in the ATP database, but the height listed seems larger than the growers info...which says average 3 to 4 feet.
Oct 29, 2012 6:30 PM CST
|I got an email back from the place where I got the seed and he didn't feel that there was a possibility of any rogue seed getting in the mix and he thought it was a genetic mutation which happens frequently in the wild. So I guess I'll have to give up on an identification. Thanks for all your efforts!|