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California (Zone 10a)
Lilies
Idontknowatall
Jul 19, 2020 7:04 PM CST
Hi all, I have a quick question. The top leaves on my rose are a paler/lighter green than the rest of the leaves. This usually indicates a nitrogen deficiency, right?
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
Jul 19, 2020 9:16 PM CST
Can you post a picture of the plant and the leaves? It always helps to see what you're talking about.
California (Zone 10a)
Lilies
Idontknowatall
Jul 20, 2020 3:45 PM CST
Sure! Here it is. The top part is in the sun right now, so that's why there's a big color difference between the top part and rest of the leaves. I'm thinking of getting a fertilizer with more nitrogen in it since the one I'm using right now has half as much nitrogen as potassium.
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Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Jul 20, 2020 4:42 PM CST
The color doesn't look that off to me ... but can we get a closer look at those lower areas where so many leaves are jammed into clumps?
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
Jul 20, 2020 4:53 PM CST
Sometimes newer growth can just be a different color. Some times it's red and some times a light green. Like new growth on a lot of plants. The way tree leaves are that bright spring green early on.
Once it matures it darkens on its own.
California (Zone 10a)
Lilies
Idontknowatall
Jul 20, 2020 5:07 PM CST
Thanks for the replies! It's late afternoon here, so the whole plant is in the sun now. I'll post another pic in the evening since the sunlight makes the leaves such a light color.
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California (Zone 10a)
Lilies
Idontknowatall
Jul 20, 2020 8:43 PM CST
Here's a photo of the plant without any sunlight on it. Are the leaves off color? If so, is it a nitrogen deficiency or what? Thanks!
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Name: Mike
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Calsurf73
Jul 20, 2020 10:30 PM CST
Is that an Iceberg rose tree ? Their foliage is usually an apple green color vs. dark green.
You would probably see an improvement in it if you got it out of that nursery pot and planted it in the ground or put it in a larger pot.
It's more than likely rootbound and the soil it's planted in has been depleted of nutrients.
California (Zone 10a)
Lilies
Idontknowatall
Jul 21, 2020 10:59 AM CST
Yes, that's an Iceberg rose tree. So the foliage is normal? I could put it in a larger pot since the ground beneath it is cement. Do you recommend waiting and potting it up in the fall or winter, when the growing season is over and it becomes dormant? I heard that's the best time to repot since there's less shock.
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Jul 21, 2020 2:17 PM CST
If you're in 10a California, I'd give it more space for roots as soon as you can do so. In the heat of summer, it's going to really suffer.

It needs to have AT LEAST as much room for its roots as it does for the top growth ... which means, if you're going to keep it in a pot, it needs a MUCH bigger pot.

For one thing, the windy season isn't that far off, and in that pot, it's going to spend most of its time lying flat on the ground.

So pot it up, giving it more room, and give it some shade for a bit. Make sure it's well-watered.
California (Zone 10a)
Lilies
Idontknowatall
Jul 21, 2020 4:07 PM CST
Got it! I keep finding conflicting info on the internet about this: are you supposed to water before or after repotting? Thanks!
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Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
Jul 21, 2020 6:56 PM CST
I would water it well the day before and then again after repotting. Being hydrated before the move will help with any transplant shock.
California (Zone 10a)
Lilies
Idontknowatall
Jul 21, 2020 9:33 PM CST
Okay, I will! Thank you all!
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Jul 23, 2020 1:52 PM CST
:-) What Seil said. :-)
California (Zone 10a)
Lilies
Idontknowatall
Jul 31, 2020 7:31 PM CST
Hi all, I'm back with an update. So I repotted my rose almost a week ago. It felt like its size got bigger and the leaves seemed wider. It was doing great up until two days ago, when it started to get droopy. I think it's because of transplant shock, so I've started misting it once daily during the hot afternoons to help with water loss through the leaves. I haven't seen any improvement yet. The soil is moist right now, so I'm planning on waiting a day to water. I put my rose in the shade from 2-4 pm today. Is there anything I can do to help my rose recover? Thank you!
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Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
Aug 1, 2020 5:32 PM CST
Keep doing what your doing and give it a chance to recoup. Lots of water and no fertilizer until you see it start to put on some new growth.
California (Zone 10a)
Lilies
Idontknowatall
Aug 1, 2020 7:13 PM CST
Got it! Do you recommend pruning it so it has less foliage to support?
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
Aug 1, 2020 8:35 PM CST
No, not now. It needs the foliage to produce food so let it be. It just needs to rest and recuperate.
Name: David Tillyer
New York City (Zone 7b)
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BigAppleRoseGuy
Aug 1, 2020 8:59 PM CST
Like all of us.
David
California (Zone 10a)
Lilies
Idontknowatall
Aug 2, 2020 10:00 AM CST
Okay, great! Thank You!

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