Plant ID forum: Northeast woodland solomon-seal lookalike?

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Name: Empress of India
Hatfield MA (Zone 5b)
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EmpressOfIndia
Jul 20, 2020 2:00 PM CST
Dry shade, New England, Z5A.

Sorry about the terrible photo of the flowers which was probably the most useful photo. The flower color is faded, murky, and purplish brownish.

Not Solomon's seal or false Solomon's seal, I don't think.

Seen today. Under 10" tall.

Thanks

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Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Jul 20, 2020 2:50 PM CST
Are you sure you didn't take photos of two different plants? False Solomon's Seal in photo 2 and 3 and Epipactis helleborine in photo 1.
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Name: Empress of India
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EmpressOfIndia
Jul 20, 2020 3:22 PM CST
In a sense: sort of?

Yes two different physical plants but I couldn't see any difference between them other than that one was in bloom, and I'm pretty sure I picked the bloom off one of the other ones yesterday so I could go through the field guide to find it. Maybe thanks to the murky colors, I couldn't. In any case, they were next to each other, and I took them both today.

I have false hellebore (isn't false hellebore vase-like?), false solomon's seal, variegated solomon's seal, giant solomon's seal, native solomon's seal and ruby-stemmed solomon's seal growing in nearby garden areas, so it would be weird if I were wrong that isn't solomon's seal. Not that I've never been wrong before!

Plus, hey, maybe there's a new solomon's seal for me.

This was not in a planted garden area -- just a walk in the woods. If it helps there were maidenhair and Christmas ferns scattered around.

But that's what made me notice it: so similar, but smaller
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Name: Empress of India
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EmpressOfIndia
Jul 20, 2020 3:23 PM CST
Oh my god, I just looked up Epipactis helleborine---I bet you are right!

Thank you!!!!
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pitimpinai
Jul 20, 2020 5:15 PM CST
The stem reminds me of Uvularia grandiflora.
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Leftwood
Jul 22, 2020 7:39 AM CST
Me, too ... something similar to Uvularia. But not quite U. grandiflora. Mature plants have leaves clasping the stem like this
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When they are small, they don't do it as much, but still more than your second and third pics. Here at 5 inches and 3 inches.
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Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Jul 22, 2020 12:40 PM CST
Uvularia would be a lot more interesting than False Solomon's Seal. Smiling
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