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JesseInCT
Jul 21, 2020 12:50 PM CST
My gut tells me this is a bad idea, but when I was hiking with my son this weekend I couldn't help but notice these amazing splits in this cliff and i was daydreaming about going back and plating some semps in one of the cracks for the next visitors to enjoy. It is an isolated cliff trail in my town.

Probably not a good idea to introduce non-native plants, huh? They sure would be happy up there though... Sad

39th birthday morning hike with my little guy!
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PaleoTemp
Jul 21, 2020 1:50 PM CST
I would not do it even I had such thoughts before. Finally I realized I need to own an area with rocks and maybe there where is my propriety, at least that is how I think now.
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Sempervivoides
Jul 22, 2020 1:28 AM CST
Hi.

It seems like you love sempervivum so much, you get naughty ideas. You know, I thought of ways you, and everyone can spread the love in safe ways. I used to be way more involved in my community.

1. Get involved with you local parks district.
a. Propose public installation you can work on. Local park or around municipal building.
b. Work on yearly public landscape areas, i.e. downtown/mainstreet district
c. Old Heritage Historic Houses and mansions could use some hort help and bed help
d. Local forest preserve sometimes have tiny gardens near clubhouses where classes are taught.

2. Start/join a local garden club or join Master Gardeners
a. Networking with other enthusiasts
b. Volunteer opportunities
c. Knowledge, both gaining and sharing

3. Join a secular place of learning or your local religious institution
a. Schools and community colleges could use volunteers to install perennial gardens with the children, teens, young adults involved. These are great for science classes.
b. Local museum, such as a science. Beds could be built into landscape
c. 'Tending the garden as an act of piety' Ask to build a garden on the grounds of your preferred religious or faith institution. They usually have way too much grass. Get others involved. Think of a prayer or meditation grotto.

4. Take the family to Europe and dedicate ones life to conservation of natural habitat.

5. Buy private land with lots of rock features, do what one desires.

6. Sponsor a garden with a local buisness


Good luck. Find local kindred spirits to share sempervivum love with. Our natural heritage is a treasure to be loved, cherished, and respected. It is fun to also do restoration projects or invasive removal. One should become familiar with the local ecosystems. Plus, no one wants to be 'that guy' who inadvertently brings the next watermillfoil, purple loosestrife, kudzu, Emerald Ash Boer, or chestnut blight.
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JesseInCT
Jul 22, 2020 4:15 AM CST
Great ideas, AnnMarie!!
Name: Karen
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plantmanager
Jul 22, 2020 10:43 AM CST
Jesse, your little guy is so cute! What a great hiking companion. I agree that it's fun to think about, but not such a good idea to introduce plants to the natural habitat.
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JungleShadows
Jul 23, 2020 10:54 AM CST
One edge of my folks' property in MA was littered with boulders from glacial action. Several had huge cracks in them that had been filled in over time with leaf litter and tiny pieces of gneiss that was the major rock in our area. It screamed to be planted.

In the shadier ones I planted some Iris cristata and they really loved it. I'm betting they're still there. In one with about half sun I planted some of the old tectorums (not wanting to use my good semps!) and they also grew quite happily. The cracks were about 6-8" deep and didn't seem to pond in rain or heavy snow melt.

I don't think anyone would think of semps as exotic invasives. The old tectorum is sterile or nearly so.

Kevin

Name: Sol Zimmerdahl
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GeologicalForms
Sep 19, 2020 2:44 AM CST
It's a fun thought Jesse,
I'd have trouble imagining semps taking over an entire landscape, but who knows I suppose it's possible. In my experience as a hiker, wild succulents tend to be among the most timid of plants, thriving in small patches but not found anywhere else for miles, I'd expect sempervivum would behave in a similar fashion. Sure they grow quickly in a garden where they are nurtured, but without weeding or watering I imagine they'd become quickly overgrown and starved for light if they tried to spread to the ground beneath those nice rock crevices. Native weeds are so much more aggressive, at least here in Oregon. Generally I lean towards the environmental protection standpoint, but I can see how one might be tempted.
On a less controversial note, I've often thought about planting them in downtown Portland, sneaking them in between buildings and tucking them into cracks in the concrete like hiding easter eggs around. My kind of mischief!
-Sol
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Sep 19, 2020 11:08 AM CST
Sol,

I can see you know sneaking around, lurking around alleys ad abandoned buildings like the "Johnny Semp-Seed" of Portland!

Gave me a good laugh.

Kevin
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plantmanager
Sep 19, 2020 2:36 PM CST
Me, too! Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Sol Zimmerdahl
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GeologicalForms
Sep 21, 2020 2:03 AM CST
Hahaha you know it!

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