Daylilies forum: Moving daylilies with seed pods on them

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Name: Kenny Shively
Rineyville, KY. region 10. (Zone 6b)
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kennysh
Jul 30, 2020 7:41 AM CST
Thanks in advance everyone. I have two seedling beds that I need to redo, the question is, these beds have 3yr. Old seedlings with pods on them that I wish to keep. Has anyone moved daylily plants with pods on them. We're their any adverse effects on the pods. The plants are healthy and 3-5 fans average. Some have several pods on them. Any thoughts or advice appreciated. Thank You!
Name: Dave
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SunriseSide
Jul 30, 2020 8:06 AM CST
Keep the dirt with the plant and the pods should make it if you replant right away. Bare root and "should" becomes "might". "Your results may be different" Whistling
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Wildbirds
Jul 30, 2020 8:45 AM CST
Move them WITH a substantial clump of moist soil & the plant will NOT likely even notice or react. Ensure the plant has been well watered previously - I suggest the day before you move it - so your plant has time to take as much moisture up into it's system as it wants/needs. .... When the 'soil ball' is damp & it should hold together better.

CAUTION: - I've found that some cultivars' seed pod adherence to the scape to be 'weak' or sometimes even brittle (As with pretty well all aspects of daylilies, there is considerable variation). I've had pods break off TOO EASILY (?) when moving them. Even the motions of the plant in digging & transport has shaken pods loose (Perhaps NOT 'sound' pods to begin with?) Also, sometimes the pods break off due to simple carelessness on my part (Blush .. Oooooh, dang-nab-it!)

Additional point, dependent upon the maturity of your pods involved, some that break of (prematurely) can still mature on a sunny windowsill and deliver viable seeds for you ..... My attitude has been "what've I got to lose doing this?" ...

Daylilies are an incredibly tolerant & forgiving plant me thinks ....
Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Jul 30, 2020 6:11 PM CST
Apparently, depending on how old/mature the pods are on a scape, the scape can be carefully removed from the fan and its cut end (the scape cut as low as possible so that it is as large as possible) placed in a bucket of water. The seeds will continue to develop and mature. I assume the scape and its pods needs to be in sunlight.

Karol Emmerich wrote,
""From Karol Emmerich just south of Minneapolis zone 4 region 1 - For the past 15 years or so I have collected 90 percent of my seeds on scapes that have been cut previously and put in a bucket with a couple of inches of water in the bottom. I keep them out of the elements and don't add anything to the water. It can get stinky, but no harm comes to the scapes. I have had success with pods the size of a medium sized grape - perhaps 30 days along. You can just drag them in the garage if a freeze is in the forecast and the. Pull them back outside during the day, perhaps under a garage overhang to keep them out of the elements. I know the pollen parent from my paperclip chain attached to the pod. I tie flagging tape around the scape and write the name of the pod parent on it. I used to write the pod parent on the scape and the pods, but the scape dries out much faster than when it is attached to the plant and I often couldn't read it. I do hundreds of scapes this way each year. It saves a lot of time - no need to run all over the garden (or in my case greenhouse) to collect pods."

Karol Emmerich also wrote this on Facebook,
" I've been doing this for years. No need to change the water or add fertilizer etc, although it will get stinky:-) They work out great if the size of a grape. Lots of folks now do this in the fall ahead of frost. I do it in late June/early July since I do my hybridizing in the greenhouse in May and pods are at least 30 days old when I cut the scapes."

If your pods are not developed enough I would dig down as deep as necessary to try to get as much of the root ball as possible and of course make the planting hole large enough to take the entire root ball. Some daylily roots store resources that the daylily can use to regrow. So getting as much root as possible is good. I would not transplant during the hottest part of the day. Keep the transplanted daylily well watered and possibly well mulched for at least the first few weeks.
Maurice
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 30, 2020 7:56 PM CST
Can you not wait until the pods are harvested before moving the clumps? I agree with Wildbirds scapes and pods break super easily. It's just safer to hold off if you can. If you break just a pod off its a goner only the scapes can be put in water. I have used the water trick on broke scapes and it works but the longest I had them in there was 2 weeks.

Off topic a little but this year I put some Asiatic Lily Graffiti blooms in a vase then forgot about them for nearly 3 weeks. Now all the water has dried up and I have white bulbils growing up and down the scape. Strangest thing I've ever seen and sure beats scaling if you are into propagating lilies Thumbs up

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Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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touchofsky
Jul 30, 2020 8:49 PM CST
I once snapped a pod off with just about a half inch of scape. There was just enough to be able to put it in water. It matured and the seeds germinated.

Love all the little lily bulbs, Daniel. I have never seen anything like that before!
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Name: Kenny Shively
Rineyville, KY. region 10. (Zone 6b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Region: Kentucky
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kennysh
Jul 31, 2020 9:11 AM CST
Thanks for your info. I did move 10 clumps to the other bed , now have one bed ready to broadfork. Will get the other bed ready after pod harvest. Thank You!
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jul 31, 2020 3:40 PM CST
I really like the tip about putting the scapes in the bucket with water, but I was a little confused by writing the name on the scape and pod. I would assume the pod parent had tags or some type of marker (gym clip) when the bloom was pollinated, so why would that not be good enough to ID the pod. It seems being it would be out of the weather and out of reach of critters so very unlikely to come off?
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Pollen collector Fruit Growers Permaculture Hybridizer Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Garden Photography Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 31, 2020 5:59 PM CST
If you have 20 scapes in a 5 gallon bucket you'd need to know which plant each scape belonged to. So you want to label the scape. Most people only put the pollen parent on the tag hanging from the pod. Some folks write both but many folks myself included reuse tags and if you write the pod parent on your tag then you are stuck only doing that same cross in the future if you want to reuse that tag.
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