Plant ID forum: Can anyone help me identify this Euphorbia I brought yesterday

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New2Adenium
Aug 1, 2020 2:52 AM CST
Can anyone help me identify this Euphorbia I brought yesterday. I got it from a backyard nursery from an elderly couple, it looks like a type of Candelabra. It was 6ft tall and so I cut it up into 4 pieces to propagate it. From the research I've done online it most looks like a Euphorbia Abyssinica. But it seems to have a type of variegation. I just havent seen any with this colouring, not even anything variegated thats not a white variegation.


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skopjecollection
Aug 1, 2020 4:07 AM CST
Ingens. We have a member who's been breeding a lot of them from seed, and hers always have those marks

They are not variegation btw. The....uh...tiger stripes(thats what im calling them) occur mostly in tree like euphorbia, often lost with age. Including but not limited to, lactea(plain one), trigona, virosa, tescorum, ingens, etc
Variegated euphorbias are plant white or yellow...
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Brisbane, Australia
New2Adenium
Aug 1, 2020 6:25 AM CST
Okay thanks I'll checkout Ingens. Yes i didnt think it was varigation either but I had no idea what to call it. This one has light colouration on new growth and it gets much more stronger and more contrast on older growth though as you can see in the pics.... could it be possible it is a hybrid or maybe a genetic mutation? I dont see any with such strong markings. Most of the Euphorbia Ingens I've seen are solid green and also I've search 3 other Candelabra type Euphorbias on google and several have also turned up looking similar, which makes me think there is alot of confusion out there between Ingens, Erythraea, Ammak, Abyssinica and Trigona.... Or there is just alot of variation between single species.
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skopjecollection
Aug 1, 2020 9:12 AM CST
New2Adenium said:Okay thanks I'll checkout Ingens. Yes i didnt think it was varigation either but I had no idea what to call it. This one has light colouration on new growth and it gets much more stronger and more contrast on older growth though as you can see in the pics.... could it be possible it is a hybrid or maybe a genetic mutation? I dont see any with such strong markings. Most of the Euphorbia Ingens I've seen are solid green and also I've search 3 other Candelabra type Euphorbias on google and several have also turned up looking similar, which makes me think there is alot of confusion out there between Ingens, Erythraea, , Abyssinica and Trigona.... Or there is just alot of variation between single species.


Lemme stop you there. Trigona is very different from the bunch- its small and very leafy(if cared for properly). Abyssinica should look closer to cereus, it has thicker stems and more ribs. Ammak is often sold as a variegated variety.Could also be an erroneus name for Erythraea. But variegated nonetheless. Only ones youll have issue telling apart and Ingens and Erythraea aka Candelabrum. The only difference they have is branching habitat.
Brisbane, Australia
New2Adenium
Aug 1, 2020 2:16 PM CST
So what is it????? Hahaha honestly its just too confusing the more i research the more confused i become LOL! The thing is that each of the tree like Euphorbias have so much variance when i google pictures of them that some look more like their cousins than their parents. That or theres alot of people mislabeling Euphorbias out there.... So that my brain doesn't explode I will call it an Ingens?.....
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Baja_Costero
Aug 1, 2020 4:16 PM CST
Looks like ingens to me. The color you have observed is typical of a plant that was grown from seed, not a cutting. The two-tone look should start to fade away on new growth once a seedling is about 2 meters tall, around the time the trunk starts to become noticeably wider. Your plant may have been about to make this change.

This is not a small plant. More info here:

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New2Adenium
Aug 1, 2020 7:36 PM CST
Okay that's great to know, Thanks everyone for your help on this topic! My plant was about 6.5ft tall when I got it and it was in a tiny 6 inch pot. Is what your saying that the markings on new growth is stronger and fading and old growth getting less markings? Because this one had stronger markings at the base and less markings on the top new growth. Where I got it it was under a Eucalypt tree canopy and had very dappled light getting to it also. Anyway I shall know in a years time once each cutting starts to get new growth on it and they become bigger specimens. I've looked everywhere and I can't find Euphorbia Ingens anywhere online or at nurseries in Australia. The man at the nursery said it was a very rare plant and it wasn't for sale but the next time I went there his wife sold it to me for $90. We are having a plant craze in Australia at the moment due to the lock down and all the nurseries are out of stock and everything is 3x more expensive! So far the virus is under control here and only a small handfull of people have it but in the past month Melbourne has been having a big out break and aparently has the highest per capita numbers in the world. Stay safe everyone and thanks again! Thank You!
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Baja_Costero
Aug 1, 2020 7:43 PM CST
New2Adenium said:Is what your saying that the markings on new growth is stronger and fading and old growth getting less markings?


Yes. From the base up, here is a (volunteer) seedling growing on our downstairs patio that only started branching this year (about 7 feet tall).

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New2Adenium
Aug 2, 2020 2:12 AM CST
Nice! Hurray!
It's a shame that they loose their beautiful camo markings though....

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