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Name: Mary Anne Jay Wentworth, NS, Canada (Zone 4a)    Raven Aug 1, 2020 10:33 AM CST |
So this is PIGMENT OF IMAGINATION. I took pictures every two hours and this is what happened. I was so surprised at the change. Does anyone else have a color changer?    |
Name: Char Vermont (Zone 4b)              |
Raven, this is a fabulous photo series showing the color change   Surely someone is growing and making crosses with these. I don't grow any of the color changers although I did have a seedling 2 or 3 years ago that appeared to do it...it got composted....ooops. A few months ago "color changer" was added to the NGA database for advanced searching of bloom traits. Slowly I've been adding the cultivars registered as changers. Take a look and if you know of any others send in an edit to the cultivars data for review. https://garden.org/plants/grou... |
Name: Dave Wood Co TX & Huron Co MI       SunriseSide Aug 2, 2020 4:45 AM CST |
I just acquired Spirit of Delusion last spring and put it in a new bed. Hasn't bloomed yet.  Life is better at the lake. |
Name: Mary Anne Jay Wentworth, NS, Canada (Zone 4a) Raven Aug 2, 2020 4:49 AM CST |
Thank you for the info Char. There aren't very many right now but it sure is fun to watch this one change. I don't know which of the pictures to put in the data base.  It looks blah first thing in the morning |
 SunnyinMichigan Aug 2, 2020 5:47 AM CST |
| Are color changers influenced by the temperatures? The rose "Double Delight" can go from mostly cream with a red edge to a clear red with a touch of cream if the days get hot. Thank you for taking the time to document those color shifts Raven! I never knew daylilies could shift like that. |
Name: Betty MN zone 4            daylilydreams Aug 2, 2020 6:00 AM CST |
| Pigment of Imagination by Richard Norris is well known for it's color changes. I am not sure if he continued with the line in his hybridizing program. Looking at the database here there are more examples of it's color changes. If you want to be happy for a lifetime plant a garden! Faith is the postage stamp on our prayers! Betty MN Zone4 AHS member |
Name: Sue Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)       sooby Aug 2, 2020 6:42 AM CST |
SunnyinMichigan said:Are color changers influenced by the temperatures? The rose "Double Delight" can go from mostly cream with a red edge to a clear red with a touch of cream if the days get hot. One environmental factor that is thought likely is light, see the definition in the Daylily Dictionary. https://daylilies.org/daylily-... |
Name: Karen Southeast PA (Zone 6b)  kousa Aug 2, 2020 2:09 PM CST |
| Raven, that is a nice progression of color changes on POI. I remember seeing something like this in a post started by a member on here but I forget her name. Another member named Robin has a beautiful seedling that exhibits similar color changes as POI. |
Name: Robin Southern Michigan (Zone 6a)     RobinSeeds Aug 16, 2020 11:55 AM CST |
| Raven, that's a really nice capture of the color changing sequence for Pigment Of Imagination. To give more information regarding the post @kousa was referring to, it was @DogsNDaylilies that documented a couple of her color changes; The thread "Color Changer Comparison" in Daylilies forum Here's a clump pic of my unregistered seedling.  God blessed me with dirt. ('Mipii' on The LA) |
Name: Mary Anne Jay Wentworth, NS, Canada (Zone 4a) Raven Aug 17, 2020 9:37 AM CST |
| Nice seedling Robin. Is the color changing as drastic as POI? |
Name: Robin Southern Michigan (Zone 6a) RobinSeeds Aug 30, 2020 11:11 PM CST |
@Raven - Thanks Mary, You tell me if the color change is as drastic as POI. The pic in my avatar and the multiple bloom shot already posted are evening pics. This is what it looks like mid-morning... God blessed me with dirt. ('Mipii' on The LA) |
Name: Mary Anne Jay Wentworth, NS, Canada (Zone 4a) Raven Aug 31, 2020 11:36 AM CST |
RobinSeeds said:@Raven - Thanks Mary, You tell me if the color change is as drastic as POI. The pic in my avatar and the multiple bloom shot already posted are evening pics. This is what it looks like mid-morning... Fabulous!! |
Name: Robin Southern Michigan (Zone 6a) RobinSeeds Aug 31, 2020 6:36 PM CST |
| Thanks, the morning eye zone is usually a bit darker than the photo and it sometimes turns into a total opposite watermark. Color changers are amazing...right? God blessed me with dirt. ('Mipii' on The LA) |
Name: Julie Roanoke, VA (Zone 7a)      floota Sep 8, 2020 12:22 PM CST |
| It's funny how perception is in the eye of the beholder. Like many, I first saw PIGMENT OF IMAGINATION at the 2012 National meeting in Columbus, OH. The hybridizer, Richard Norris, lives in OH and my guess is he guested it at several of the tour gardens. I first saw it at 4 PM in one garden, and then saw it at 8 AM in another garden. It freaked me and others totally out, and like many, I came home and ordered it directly from Richard. So now, 8 years later, lots of people are on the color changer bandwagon and hybridizing in that direction. Good for them! What I've observed here in my garden is that POI is regrettably, not that great of a garden plant. IMHO, the blooms are , well, ugly early in the day when most people would see them, bud count and scapes are not that impressive. IMHO, the hybridizer might have introduced it because he realized he was on to something distinctive. I've enjoyed the near white blooms in the evening, but visitors never see that. ( In July here, every single day of the month was 90 degrees and over. ) So I'm in the midst of fall shipping and have sold the entire plant. It was fun to grow it for the novelty but good plant habits win here, hands down. . |
Name: Robin Southern Michigan (Zone 6a) RobinSeeds Sep 8, 2020 12:49 PM CST |
 good plant habits win here too. I just purchased POI so I will find out it's flaws soon.God blessed me with dirt. ('Mipii' on The LA) |
Name: Ken Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b) Daylilies & hardy hibiscus  MrKGDickie Sep 11, 2020 8:45 PM CST |
| I'm not sure if these are considered color-changers or not. Black Arrowhead AM & PM  Grey Witch AM & PM  Trahlyta AM & PM  Starman's Quest AM & PM  Opting Out AM & PM  The pics used for Opting Out aren't the best. It changes from a definite purple to a pinkish-purple...maybe you could call it lavender. Maybe it's just fading, more than changing. Hardy hibiscus are a hobby, but daylilies are an obsession. |
Name: Robin Southern Michigan (Zone 6a) RobinSeeds Sep 11, 2020 11:44 PM CST |
| They do change throughout the day Ken. I'm not an expert form AHS but they seem to be fading really good. God blessed me with dirt. ('Mipii' on The LA) |
Name: Ken Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b) Daylilies & hardy hibiscus MrKGDickie Sep 12, 2020 6:34 AM CST |
| The top four start out light and turn dark...like grey to dark purple, in the case of Grey Witch. Opting Out fades buy also changes color too. Hardy hibiscus are a hobby, but daylilies are an obsession. |
Name: Nancy Bowling Green Kentucky (Zone 6b)  alilyfan Sep 12, 2020 8:03 AM CST |
| Floota, I looked at your zone and saw it is not so far off from my zone 6. I am surprised that POI does not have good plant habits for you. This was the 2nd full year for it here and it has become a clump, at least 8 or 9 fans, bud count between 10 to 17, not great but in my garden above average. Foliage looks nice all summer, I can't say that about a lot of my daylilies. Like you, i am not impressed with the flowers, fun the 1st year. Nothing special early in the morning, a brief stage that I quite like midday, ok by late afternoon. I am over it, but my husband really likes it though. He is not into daylilies at all, but he pays attention to this one so guess it stays. |
Name: Julie Roanoke, VA (Zone 7a) floota Sep 12, 2020 8:21 AM CST |
| I grew it for 8 years and found foliage a bit spindly in comparison to other plants . Branching and bud count are so-so, despite optimum growing conditions. As I downsize, those with less desired attributes go first. JMHO. |
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