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Name: Paul
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Paul2032
Nov 6, 2012 6:18 AM CST
My guess is that this is Taro but I'm just guessing. What do you think?



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twitcher
Nov 6, 2012 6:34 AM CST
Not taro as I recognize it. The elephant ears (Colocasia) are typically considered among the forms of taro but yours is not an EE.
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SongofJoy
Nov 6, 2012 7:39 AM CST
Looks more like an Alocasia tuber.
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plantladylin
Nov 6, 2012 9:49 AM CST
My first thought was a Sweet Potato Vine of some sort, possibly Dioscorea batatas: Chinese Yam (Dioscorea polystachya)

... it looks like it's vining. It sure is pretty whatever it is!
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Paul2032
Nov 6, 2012 10:00 AM CST
I think Chinese yam....Dioscorea opposita....is correct. It looks like the pictures on google....it is Dioscorea oppositifolia on the data base.
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SongofJoy
Nov 6, 2012 10:30 AM CST
Good ID. Hurray! Looks like we need some photos in the database. Green Grin!
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Paul2032
Nov 6, 2012 11:11 AM CST
When adding this to the data base what would you call the first picture. Bulb is the closest possibility on the site but I would say tuber but it isn't listed.
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SongofJoy
Nov 6, 2012 11:40 AM CST
In the databox, the section titled "Underground Structures" has a box to mark "Tuber" Smiling .
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plantladylin
Nov 6, 2012 11:44 AM CST
I would click the listing for bulb since tuber isn't one of the options.

I thought I had posted another comment above but I must have not hit the finished button so it was lost. Grumbling


There are three entry's/listings in the database for this plant.

D. opposita
D. oppositifolia
Chinese Wild Yam, D. oppositifolia

http://garden.org/plants/browse/plants/genus/Dioscorea/?offs...

Looking at the ITIS website I do not find a D. opposita, only oppositifolia which is the accepted name. I've submitted a proposal to have the duplicates deleted.


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plantladylin
Nov 6, 2012 11:45 AM CST
SongofJoy said:In the databox, the section titled "Underground Structures" has a box to mark "Tuber" Smiling .

Hurray! Thank you Tee ... I forgot about that!


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SongofJoy
Nov 6, 2012 11:50 AM CST
I tip my hat to you.
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Paul2032
Nov 6, 2012 11:53 AM CST
OK...I still have lots to learn....what is the 'databox'?
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SongofJoy
Nov 6, 2012 12:17 PM CST
It's the long box where you input the data about the plant. It says "Edit data details" in the sidebar on the right in a plant's entry..
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Name: Louise
East Texas, zones 7b/8a
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louise
Nov 10, 2012 5:40 PM CST
Someone told me a few years ago about a difference in alocasia
and colocasia. They said that on one type the leaves pointed up
and on the other type the leaves pointed down. Is this correct?

Thanks for any help,
Louise
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JRsbugs
Nov 10, 2012 6:33 PM CST
No it's not correct Louise, but you are close. It's to do with where the stem joins the leaves I think, it was Brian Williams who mentioned this on DG. Alocasia is cut into the point where the stem joins the leaf where Colocasia is not so deeply cut.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=alocasia&bav=on.2,or....

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=alocasia&bav=on.2,or....
Name: Louise
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louise
Nov 10, 2012 6:47 PM CST
JR,
OMG, I didn't know that there were so many varieties.
I only have four but I want to buy the African Mask and
the Black Magic.

Thanks so much for the links,
Louise
Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Nov 10, 2012 8:29 PM CST
An easy way to remember the difference between Alocasia and Colocasia: A is sharp and C is round
Name: Louise
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louise
Nov 11, 2012 10:41 AM CST
Thanks for the memory trick.
I hope I'm understanding where to look.

LM
Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Nov 11, 2012 12:07 PM CST
Look at where the stem meets the leaf in these two pics....Alocasia and Colocasia.. the top part of the Alocasia leaf is deeply cut into a V and the leaf and stem meet very close to the bottom of that V. The Colocasia has a much rounder leaf top and more of a U shape with the stem attaching further into the leaf.

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Name: Louise
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louise
Nov 11, 2012 12:12 PM CST
Thanks soooo much for clearing up the differences in my
mind. I would have begun to look at the base of the leaf stem
where it joins the main stalk. Lots to learn…..…. Thumbs up

LM

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