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Nov 14, 2012 11:57 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
Seller of Garden Stuff Garden Ideas: Level 1
I think so, yes. Even though the info can be gotten elsewhere it's nice to see info on something in one place, wherever it would be.
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Nov 14, 2012 2:15 PM CST
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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator Plant Identifier Region: Nebraska Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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PollyK said:

And Kent, I sure agree with having different databases to refer to, and compare with.

And I need to be more specific, it's not the info itself on the AIS site, as that is copied from the registry, as are most of the databases, it's the photos. And yes, of course, there are errors on all sites.

But, everyone, we need pictures of all aspects of the iris, not just it's pretty face, close up of the beards, PBF, etc. I think the answer would be to have the hybridizer him or herself put the pictures in the AIS.



AIS is addressing that issue to some degree, they are requesting (not requiring) that hybridizers submit pictures with their registration forms going forward. It doesn't help with the thousands of iris that were already hybridized, but it's a start. I'm guessing those pictures will end up in the Encyclopedia.

I haven't really seen very many obvious errors with photos in the Iris Encyclopedia. The most common error I see is non-TB iris listed in the TB areas. It's an easy mistake to make, and the way the database is organized, there is no automatic way to prevent it. The biggest problem, though, is that even when errors are found and reported, they don't get fixed. I'd imagine they will get better at that over time, right now they seemed to be primarily focused on getting all 70,000 registered iris into the database and collecting as many pictures as possible.
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Nov 14, 2012 4:13 PM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Birds Garden Ideas: Level 1 Region: Pacific Northwest
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For 3 years now I have seen my pictures of my introductions when I register, as still being new I might not have the description totally right and I am getting help and suggestions on them.

Paul please add to this database and Cubits any infor you find that is NOT already there it really does help more than many people think about.

D
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak <url>http://snowpeakiris.com</http>

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Nov 14, 2012 4:19 PM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
Grandchildren are my greatest joy.
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Dee....now that it is winter and I have lots of free time I will add info. Every time I see a random picture of an iris on ATP I click on it for more info. If none is there I look at the Encyclopedia and sometimes add it. I will be more diligent in doing that.
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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Nov 14, 2012 5:32 PM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Birds Garden Ideas: Level 1 Region: Pacific Northwest
Region: Oregon Irises Hummingbirder Garden Art Dog Lover Cat Lover
Thank you as going back thru the alphabet and checking the iris again. I do not have the time to add the data but I truly appreciate anyone adding that for me as well as anything found elsewhere, it helps greatly

D
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak <url>http://snowpeakiris.com</http>

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Nov 14, 2012 5:51 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Birds Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Region: Kentucky Region: United States of America Celebrating Gardening: 2015
OK -- I have a question. Several times -- both in the ATP database and the Cubits database -- I have seen photographs of an Iris that is blatantly wrong. Twice, there were many photos from different people that were correct, and one glaring incorrect one. Should this be brought to the attention of the moderators?
Thoughts become things -- choose the good ones. (www.tut.com)
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Nov 14, 2012 6:22 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
Seller of Garden Stuff Garden Ideas: Level 1
Kent, that would be such a big help, getting the photos in from the hybridizers!

Mary Ann, yes please. Unfortunately there were some pictures put in here that Dee did not see. Or maybe we missed them, we're all human, but yes, please bring them to our attention.
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Nov 14, 2012 6:31 PM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
Grandchildren are my greatest joy.
Annuals Enjoys or suffers cold winters Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Garden Procrastinator Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Plays in the sandbox
Tender Perennials Tomato Heads The WITWIT Badge Region: Utah Vegetable Grower Hybridizer
What amazes me [it doesn't take much] is the vast difference in the pictures of many of the daylilys. There may be 10 or 12 photos and none resemble any of the others. There are also some Hosta where some pictures are of a Hosta with a darker center and a lighter edge and some on the same page are just the opposite.... Confused
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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Nov 14, 2012 7:42 PM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Birds Garden Ideas: Level 1 Region: Pacific Northwest
Region: Oregon Irises Hummingbirder Garden Art Dog Lover Cat Lover
Mary Ann I am going thru all the A's now and the big difference I see here is that the lighting is different but other than that I have only found one I am certain is incorrect and have written to the person that posted it to have them look at it first and check out on their own records before I do more.

D

But any time you see an error in the Bearded please let me know and that goes for anyone else, I can check it out and with all sources including many times the hybridizer.

D

Thank you all for helping
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak <url>http://snowpeakiris.com</http>

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Nov 14, 2012 8:27 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Birds Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Region: Kentucky Region: United States of America Celebrating Gardening: 2015
OK -- will do. I don't remember now which Irises they were -- but if and when I run across them again, or any others, I'll bring them to your attention.
Thoughts become things -- choose the good ones. (www.tut.com)
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Nov 14, 2012 8:51 PM CST
Name: Dee Stewart
Willamette Valley OR
Snowpeak Iris
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Birds Garden Ideas: Level 1 Region: Pacific Northwest
Region: Oregon Irises Hummingbirder Garden Art Dog Lover Cat Lover
Just finished all the ones in A tonight, now on to B but must finished my new home page and L for the catalog datapage on my webpage, as I must split my time between the two so that I will get more done on both

D
Denise Stewart
541-259-2343
Snowpeak <url>http://snowpeakiris.com</http>

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